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Old 08-02-2007, 12:10 PM
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thats right, Bush is doing what is right and thank good all the haters have not given him a nervious breakdown yet, unfortunatly all the haters are invested in the defeat of the "United" States of America. Hold fast you guys out there, seems things may be on the horizon that look positive for the "grown up's" party.

anyway for the new pres I will go with Mcain Guliani or Fred Thomason

all the dem canidates are either coo-coo or just power hungry and dont really care about the American People or America.

If I had to choose a dem, it would be Obama because you can see in his eyes that he cares for America and is not only interested in his own selfish promotion without care of anything else before that.

however I dont think he is expirianced enough and I also dont agree with increasing taxes and having big government trying to tell me how to wipe my ass & how many sheets of TP i can use, or try to control me by giving me entitlements as well as to life time crack dealers & just plain old lazy people who dont want to work so they get thier "babymommas" to be on welfare while they spend all the goodies and suppliment by robbin and dealin.

fuck all that.

Im trying to feed my family while these fucks are taking 40% of my salary and giving it to these motherfuckers who are gaming the system when the people who really should be getting it are the single abandoned moms who actually have enough honor and are too humble to take it so they work like slaves to raise thier kids alone.

while Hillary sits there at her town hall mettings spewing her bullshit to everyone. watch the way the wind blows, i promise you she goes where ever it goes, man its gonna be fun to watch all her flip floping be documented in the national election

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Old 08-02-2007, 12:11 PM
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thats right, Bush is doing what is right and thank good all the haters have not given him a nervious breakdown yet, unfortunatly all the haters are invested in the defeat of the "United" States of America. Hold fast you guys out there, seems things may be on the horizon that look positive for the "grown up's" party.

anyway for the new pres I will go with Mcain Guliani or Fred Thomason

all the dem canidates are either coo-coo or just power hungry and dont really care about the American People or America.

If I had to choose a dem, it would be Obama because you can see in his eyes that he cares for America and is not only interested in his own selfish promotion without care of anything else before that.

however I dont think he is expirianced enough and I also dont agree with increasing taxes and having big government trying to tell me how to wipe my ass & how many sheets of TP i can use, or try to control me by giving me entitlements as well as to life time crack dealers & just plain old lazy people who dont want to work so they get thier "babymommas" to be on welfare while they spend all the goodies and suppliment by robbin and dealin.

fuck all that.

Im trying to feed my family while these fucks are taking 40% of my salary and giving it to these motherfuckers who are gaming the system when the people who really should be getting it are the single abandoned moms who actually have enough honor and are too humble to take it so they work like slaves to raise thier kids alone.

while Hillary sits there at her town hall mettings spewing her bullshit to everyone. watch the way the wind blows, i promise you she goes where ever it goes, man its gonna be fun to watch all her flip floping be documented in the national election

fucking power hungry hor
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As much as I hate to say it...I think Guiliani will be the next president.
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Twentieth Amendment to the United States Constitution - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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Old 08-02-2007, 12:49 PM
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no but the election is not until Nov. 2008. What is going on now is both sides (democrats & republicans) are trying to get the nomination of their parties. After that is decided all next year will be the presidential race. So it will be Jan. 20, 2009 before a new president is sworn into office.
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BUSH BLOWS BALLS!
plain and simple...

Worst president ever? I think so...
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Actually the President did have congressional approval for the march 20, 2003 invasion. Here is a link showing that.

WAIS Document Retrieval

<QUOTE>
Whereas Iraq is in material breach of its disarmament and
other obligations under United Nations Security Council
Resolution 687, to cease repression of its civilian
population that threatens international peace and security
under United Nations Security Council Resolution 688, and to
cease threatening its neighbors or United Nations operations
in Iraq under United Nations Security Council Resolution 949,
and United Nations Security Council Resolution 678 authorizes
use of all necessary means to compel Iraq to comply with
these ``subsequent relevant resolutions;''
Whereas Congress in the Authorization for Use of Military
Force Against Iraq Resolution (Public Law 102-1) has
authorized the President to use the Armed Forces of the
United States to achieve full implementation of Security
Council Resolutions 660, 661, 662, 664, 665, 666, 667, 669,
670, 674, and 677, pursuant to Security Council Resolution
678;
Whereas Congress in section 1095 of Public Law 102-190 has
stated that it ``supports the use of all necessary means to
achieve the goals of Security Council Resolution 687 as being
consistent with the Authorization for Use of Military Force
Against Iraq (Public Law 102-1),'' that Iraq's repression of
its civilian population violates United Nations Security
Council Resolution 688 and ``constitutes a continuing threat
to the peace, security, and stability of the Persian Gulf
region,'' and that Congress ``supports the use of all
necessary means to achieve the goals of Resolution 688'';
Whereas Congress in the Iraq Liberation Act (Public Law
105-33 has expressed its sense that it should be the policy
of the United States to support efforts to remove from power
the current Iraqi regime and promote the emergence of a
democratic government to replace that regime;
Whereas the President has authority under the Constitution
to take action in order to deter and prevent acts of
international terrorism against the United States, as
Congress recognized in the joint resolution on Authorization
for Use of Military Force (Public Law 107-40); and
Whereas the President has authority under the Constitution
to use force in order to defend the national security
interests of the United States: Now, therefore, be it
Resolved by the Senate and House of Representatives of the
United States of America in Congress assembled,

SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.

This joint resolution may be cited as the ``Further
Resolution on Iraq''.

SEC. 2. AUTHORIZATION FOR USE OF UNITED STATES ARMED FORCES.

The President is authorized to use all means that he
determines to be appropriate, including force, in order to
enforce the United Nations Security Council Resolutions
referenced above, defend the national security interests of
the United States against the threat posed by Iraq, and
restore international peace and security in the region.

Mr. MURKOWSKI. This contains a number of ``whereas's.'' It is
transmitted by the Assistant to the President for Legislative Affairs
and the Counsel to the President. At the conclusion of the resolution
that is going to be before this body is a joint resolution cited as
``Further Resolution on Iraq.'' I will read the ``resolved'' portion:

The President is authorized to use all means that he
determines to be appropriate, including force, in order to
enforce United Nations Security Council Resolutions
referenced above, defend the national security interests of
the United States against the threat posed by Iraq, and
restore international peace and security in the region.

</QUOTE>


This link is for the Senate Bill for the Use of Force in Iraq pre 2003.

Search Results - THOMAS (Library of Congress)::

Or the one for the House of Representatives Bill for the use of Force in Iraq pre 2003.

Search Results - THOMAS (Library of Congress)::
<QUOTE>
SEC. 3. AUTHORIZATION FOR USE OF UNITED STATES ARMED FORCES.
  • (a) AUTHORIZATION- The President is authorized to use the Armed Forces of the United States as he determines to be necessary and appropriate in order to--
    • (1) defend the national security of the United States against the continuing threat posed by Iraq; and
    • (2) enforce all relevant United Nations Security Council resolutions regarding Iraq.
  • (b) PRESIDENTIAL DETERMINATION- In connection with the exercise of the authority granted in subsection (a) to use force the President shall, prior to such exercise or as soon thereafter as may be feasible, but no later than 48 hours after exercising such authority, make available to the Speaker of the House of Representatives and the President pro tempore of the Senate his determination that--
    • (1) reliance by the United States on further diplomatic or other peaceful means alone either (A) will not adequately protect the national security of the United States against the continuing threat posed by Iraq or (B) is not likely to lead to enforcement of all relevant United Nations Security Council resolutions regarding Iraq; and
    • (2) acting pursuant to this resolution is consistent with the United States and other countries continuing to take the necessary actions against international terrorists and terrorist organizations, including those nations, organizations or persons who planned, authorized, committed or aided the terrorists attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001.
  • (c) WAR POWERS RESOLUTION REQUIREMENTS-
    • (1) SPECIFIC STATUTORY AUTHORIZATION- Consistent with section 8(a)(1) of the War Powers Resolution, the Congress declares that this section is intended to constitute specific statutory authorization within the meaning of section 5(b) of the War Powers Resolution.
    • (2) APPLICABILITY OF OTHER REQUIREMENTS- Nothing in this resolution supersedes any requirement of the War Powers Resolution.
</QUOTE>

And all the president had to do to continue the war in Iraq indefinitely was to do the following:

<QUOTE>
SEC. 4. REPORTS TO CONGRESS.
  • (a) The President shall, at least once every 60 days, submit to the Congress a report on matters relevant to this joint resolution, including actions taken pursuant to the exercise of authority granted in section 3 and the status of planning for efforts that are expected to be required after such actions are completed, including those actions described in section 7 of Public Law 105-338 (the Iraq Liberation Act of 199.
  • (b) To the extent that the submission of any report described in subsection (a) coincides with the submission of any other report on matters relevant to this joint resolution otherwise required to be submitted to Congress pursuant to the reporting requirements of Public Law 93-148 (the War Powers Resolution), all such reports may be submitted as a single consolidated report to the Congress.
  • (c) To the extent that the information required by section 3 of Public Law 102-1 is included in the report required by this section, such report shall be considered as meeting the requirements of section 3 of Public Law 102-1.
</QUOTE>
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Old 08-02-2007, 02:04 PM
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im saying guys im not a closet bush lover I was a democrat and i really did not like bush and was really upset when gore lost.

After September 11th i switch to republican, and you know why. Bush is doing the right thing,

I know what im talking about, unlike most of you guys who just follow the crowd like your friend Hillary, no leadership.

I know what im talking about because I am an ARAB Palestinian, my family was thrown out of their home by the Israelis back when they took over Palestine. so no one has the right to try to say i don't know what im talking about. Iraq is the central from in the war on terrorism, you guys have no idea what the fuck is going on, all the terrorists are laughing their asses off and getting more donations and more recruits because of your partisan politics. I know these guys because I was born among them, I understand their stubbornness and their blindness to truth caused by lack of knowledge and indoctrination, that unbelievably you guys are telling them is true!!!! are you crazy!!!! you are telling the enemy of your sons & daughters & mother and father that they are right??

you guys wanna pull out of Iraq?

you guys are pussies, good idea lets leave "Al Qaeda in Iraq" to just hang out over there. im sure they will be cool with us. unbelievable I would think people on here would have enough street smarts to know where threats be-ly
fuck man you guys are on a band wagon, and we all know what happens to band wagons, they crash and burn.

if you want a good indicator on if your are being deceived is when things look too much in one direction. I understand its fashionable its cool to hate America and but what the fuck??

but im going to represent for my country since I am and American citizen now, unfortunately probably a better one than many, Ill live or die for America

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As much as I hate to say it...I think Guiliani will be the next president.
Must be one of the ones draggin us down through welfare tax

But yea guys great rebuttle, anyone care to retort on the points I said above? hmmmm i guess its kinda hard.
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There wouldn't be a problem if we hadn't invaded Iraq. If Israel had not been founded in your homeland, would there be a problem there today? The problems we face now are of our own creation. I don't think pulling out of Iraq will do much good...neither will staying there though, but if we leave, that's countless American lives we can save now.
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