Forum Shop Market
Seeds FAQ Tools
SEE OUR MARIJUANA SEED GUIDE FOR THE BEST STRAINS
Looking for Legal Marijuana look no further!
Go Back   Marijuana Growing > Cannabis Cafe > Politics


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1    
Old 08-01-2007, 01:56 PM
Veteran Smoker
Mr. Ganja
closet.cult is offline
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 1,664
closet.cult is just really nicecloset.cult is just really nicecloset.cult is just really nicecloset.cult is just really nice
Points: 6,052, Level: 11 Points: 6,052, Level: 11 Points: 6,052, Level: 11
Activity: 0% Activity: 0% Activity: 0%
Question The U.S. sucks...or does it?
There are many aspects of the government and the legal system and the horribly detached (not to mention corrupt) politicians that need reform. But if you were one of the wealthy elite with actual power to change policy for the benefit of the nation and its continued prosperity, there is a heavy burden on your shoulders. You do actually have to consider the fact that; some decisions may involve the deaths of innocent people for the good of many. Other policies are not so dramatic, but will affect the lives of millions, some negatively, some positively.

More importantly, there are tons of unfair laws on the books that simply do not affect us so we never give them a thought.

My wife mentioned something that made me think recently.

If the U.S. had fair & just laws regarding recreational drugs, say; based on the damage they cause, would we really have as large a complaint against the government, as we all do now?

The U.S. would gain incredible points in my mind if it had fair laws on drug use.
Reply With Quote
  #2    
Old 08-01-2007, 02:17 PM
Gygax1974's Avatar
Just some idiot
Mr. Ganja
Gygax1974 is offline
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 2,433
Gygax1974 is a jewel in the roughGygax1974 is a jewel in the roughGygax1974 is a jewel in the rough
Points: 10,278, Level: 14 Points: 10,278, Level: 14 Points: 10,278, Level: 14
Activity: 0% Activity: 0% Activity: 0%
Quote:
Originally Posted by closet.cult View Post
There are many aspects of the government and the legal system and the horribly detached (not to mention corrupt) politicians that need reform. But if you were one of the wealthy elite with actual power to change policy for the benefit of the nation and its continued prosperity, there is a heavy burden on your shoulders. You do actually have to consider the fact that; some decisions may involve the deaths of innocent people for the good of many. Other policies are not so dramatic, but will affect the lives of millions, some negatively, some positively.

More importantly, there are tons of unfair laws on the books that simply do not affect us so we never give them a thought.

My wife mentioned something that made me think recently.

If the U.S. had fair & just laws regarding recreational drugs, say; based on the damage they cause, would we really have as large a complaint against the government, as we all do now?

The U.S. would gain incredible points in my mind if it had fair laws on drug use.
I love this country. I do not agree with what is happening in this country though. It's one big corporation and it's full of lobbying and is totally corrupt at this point. I would still complain even if they did have fair drug laws, drugs are a small part of the big picture. I feel that we are no longer a we the people country, have we ever been? My tax dollars are paying for weapons used to kill people, our education system is turning into shit. High rollers are handed pardons left and right. There is no accountablilty among our politicians. We have people without health insurance. We have an administration that does whatever it wants. Our forefathers would be ashamed, I think? For all I know they were corrupt too.
Reply With Quote
  #3    
Old 08-01-2007, 02:25 PM
7xstall's Avatar
Veteran Smoker
Mr. Ganja
7xstall is offline
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: dixie
Posts: 2,132
7xstall is a splendid one to behold7xstall is a splendid one to behold7xstall is a splendid one to behold7xstall is a splendid one to behold7xstall is a splendid one to behold7xstall is a splendid one to behold
Points: 7,632, Level: 12 Points: 7,632, Level: 12 Points: 7,632, Level: 12
Activity: 0% Activity: 0% Activity: 0%
you're right! it's the usurpation of our basic human right to accept whatever liability accommodates our choices.

we also surrender the choice to accept those liabilities when we cause the government to have to "deal" with us. for example, when a person who is high interrupts the function of another individual by wrecking their car or neglecting hygiene and getting an infection while not having adequate money to treat said infection.

some people are slackers but if you take the government safety nets out of the way they will shape up, fast!

government is like table manors; sure, you can eat with your hands but it seems so much more civilized to use the fork and knife. people like pretentiousness, piety, etc.. government feeds on this.




.
__________________
"But even when you cease to be slaves, you are yet far removed from being placed on an equality with the white race."

- Abraham Lincoln, President of the United States of America, Hero to the servants of big government, Racist War Monger
Reply With Quote
  #4    
Old 08-01-2007, 02:31 PM
suicidesamurai's Avatar
Ganja Smoker
Pot Head
suicidesamurai is offline
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: South Alabama
Posts: 218
suicidesamurai is on a distinguished road
Points: 1,297, Level: 5 Points: 1,297, Level: 5 Points: 1,297, Level: 5
Activity: 0% Activity: 0% Activity: 0%
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gygax1974 View Post
I love this country. I do not agree with what is happening in this country though. It's one big corporation and it's full of lobbying and is totally corrupt at this point. I would still complain even if they did have fair drug laws, drugs are a small part of the big picture. I feel that we are no longer a we the people country, have we ever been? My tax dollars are paying for weapons used to kill people, our education system is turning into shit. High rollers are handed pardons left and right. There is no accountablilty among our politicians. We have people without health insurance. We have an administration that does whatever it wants. Our forefathers would be ashamed, I think? For all I know they were corrupt too.
You can become them, you know? No need to complain once you're in.
Reply With Quote
  #5    
Old 08-01-2007, 02:47 PM
Gygax1974's Avatar
Just some idiot
Mr. Ganja
Gygax1974 is offline
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 2,433
Gygax1974 is a jewel in the roughGygax1974 is a jewel in the roughGygax1974 is a jewel in the rough
Points: 10,278, Level: 14 Points: 10,278, Level: 14 Points: 10,278, Level: 14
Activity: 0% Activity: 0% Activity: 0%
I don't want to....lol
Reply With Quote
  #6    
Old 08-01-2007, 02:49 PM
Veteran Smoker
Mr. Ganja
closet.cult is offline
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 1,664
closet.cult is just really nicecloset.cult is just really nicecloset.cult is just really nicecloset.cult is just really nice
Points: 6,052, Level: 11 Points: 6,052, Level: 11 Points: 6,052, Level: 11
Activity: 0% Activity: 0% Activity: 0%
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gygax1974 View Post
I love this country. I do not agree with what is happening in this country though. It's one big corporation and it's full of lobbying and is totally corrupt at this point. I would still complain even if they did have fair drug laws, drugs are a small part of the big picture. I feel that we are no longer a we the people country, have we ever been? My tax dollars are paying for weapons used to kill people, our education system is turning into shit. High rollers are handed pardons left and right. There is no accountablilty among our politicians. We have people without health insurance. We have an administration that does whatever it wants. Our forefathers would be ashamed, I think? For all I know they were corrupt too.
I fully agree with all your complaints here. If drugs were all legal we would still have much to complain about. But complaining isn't revolting.

Is the U.S. in a state so terrible that its people need to revolt to get things under control?

I don't think so. I say this because the absolutely only way I break a law is in drug use. So if I didn't have the paranoia of a lawman giving me shit over use, I would just keep moving along, living everyday life like everyone else. I pay taxes and expect the police to come when I need them. If I need the courts I can hire a lawyer and assume there will be a decision in my favor, if I have just grounds for my case. Capitalism sucks because it throws people values all out of whack. They value money above ALL, even human life. But a capitalistic nation (like the U.S.) does give its ordinary people the opportunity of an easier life.

There is only one area that deserves attention and the current president has brought this to everyone's eyes. The president does not really answer to the people. He answers to the major capitalists who got him in office. They bought his position and expect decisions during his term which will benefit them. There is absolutely no concern for 'we the people', anymore.

I wish this would change. Unfortunately, the only way this country knows how to change things is thru litigation and bureaucracy. Which again puts law makers in charge of the change, when what we need is the people in charge of change. Though I have no solution myself, yet.
Reply With Quote
  #7    
Old 08-01-2007, 02:59 PM
ViRedd's Avatar
Marijuana EXPERT
Mr. Ganja
ViRedd is offline
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Socialist Republic of Kalifornia
Posts: 12,114
ViRedd has a reputation beyond reputeViRedd has a reputation beyond reputeViRedd has a reputation beyond reputeViRedd has a reputation beyond reputeViRedd has a reputation beyond reputeViRedd has a reputation beyond reputeViRedd has a reputation beyond reputeViRedd has a reputation beyond reputeViRedd has a reputation beyond reputeViRedd has a reputation beyond reputeViRedd has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 44,744, Level: 30 Points: 44,744, Level: 30 Points: 44,744, Level: 30
Activity: 10% Activity: 10% Activity: 10%
You can start by running for City Council. From there, run for State Senator. After that, run for Congress. Then vote your conscious.

Vi
__________________
Liberals are people that will believe anything twice.
Reply With Quote
  #8    
Old 08-01-2007, 03:00 PM
Gygax1974's Avatar
Just some idiot
Mr. Ganja
Gygax1974 is offline
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 2,433
Gygax1974 is a jewel in the roughGygax1974 is a jewel in the roughGygax1974 is a jewel in the rough
Points: 10,278, Level: 14 Points: 10,278, Level: 14 Points: 10,278, Level: 14
Activity: 0% Activity: 0% Activity: 0%
There is only one area that deserves attention and the current president has brought this to everyone's eyes. The president does not really answer to the people. He answers to the major capitalists who got him in office. They bought his position and expect decisions during his term which will benefit them. There is absolutely no concern for 'we the people', anymore.



This is what I was getting at, it's our country and not his solely. If we vote to bring troops home they should come home. If we vote to implement health care it should happen. Money isn't freedom. I'm a damn proud American I love this country and yes I DO VOTE.
Reply With Quote
  #9    
Old 08-01-2007, 04:11 PM
ViRedd's Avatar
Marijuana EXPERT
Mr. Ganja
ViRedd is offline
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Socialist Republic of Kalifornia
Posts: 12,114
ViRedd has a reputation beyond reputeViRedd has a reputation beyond reputeViRedd has a reputation beyond reputeViRedd has a reputation beyond reputeViRedd has a reputation beyond reputeViRedd has a reputation beyond reputeViRedd has a reputation beyond reputeViRedd has a reputation beyond reputeViRedd has a reputation beyond reputeViRedd has a reputation beyond reputeViRedd has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 44,744, Level: 30 Points: 44,744, Level: 30 Points: 44,744, Level: 30
Activity: 10% Activity: 10% Activity: 10%
[quote=Gygax1974;224009]There is only one area that deserves attention and the current president has brought this to everyone's eyes. The president does not really answer to the people. He answers to the major capitalists who got him in office. They bought his position and expect decisions during his term which will benefit them. There is absolutely no concern for 'we the people', anymore.



This is what I was getting at, it's our country and not his solely. If we vote to bring troops home they should come home. If we vote to implement health care it should happen. Money isn't freedom. I'm a damn proud American I love this country and yes I DO VOTE.[/quote]

I appreciate your passion, Gygax, but did you watch the last Democrat debat? If so, did you see the questions posed by the UTube people? If so, are these the people whom you want deciding our foreign policy ... or anything else for that matter?

Vi
__________________
Liberals are people that will believe anything twice.
Reply With Quote
  #10    
Old 08-01-2007, 04:27 PM
Gygax1974's Avatar
Just some idiot
Mr. Ganja
Gygax1974 is offline
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 2,433
Gygax1974 is a jewel in the roughGygax1974 is a jewel in the roughGygax1974 is a jewel in the rough
Points: 10,278, Level: 14 Points: 10,278, Level: 14 Points: 10,278, Level: 14
Activity: 0% Activity: 0% Activity: 0%
It would be nice if WE could decide what we want in foreign policy.
 

Tags
sucksor

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Thread

Thread Starter

Forum

Replies

Last Post

This sucks!!! chuck4bud Indoor Growing 20 05-22-2007 05:50 PM
That sucks NO GROW Toke N Talk 3 05-12-2007 10:40 PM
sometimes this sucks! fdd2blk Indoor Growing 9 01-20-2007 08:25 AM

Posting Rules

You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

Come Check out a new Poker Forum for the online poker community

All times are GMT -7. The time now is 04:03 PM.
Powered by vBulletin
Copyright © 2000-2009 Jelsoft Enterprises Limited.

Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.3.2