That was not my premise at all. You made it my premise, thinking that all Socialists just want to pay taxes. My premise was that Socialism is the closest thing to what Jesus taught. He helped those around him because they needed it. Do you think Jesus would have bitched about paying into welfare programs? Would he have balked at instituting a healthcare system where all people could get adequate coverage?(And I'm not insinuating any plans brought forward from the current administration, so don't go there) Did he want unscrupulous amounts of money for healing the sick? So what do you think Jesus would have been? A pro corporate right wing capitalist?

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I don't think Jesus would be a socialist, a communist or a fascist at all. I think he would be a libertarian. In other words, Jesus would have us abide by the Ten Commandments, i.e., Thou shalt not steal. Thou shalt not covet. Thou shalt not kill.

Jesus would be for voluntary donations of time and money for charity, not the extraction of wealth by government force at the point of a gun if necessary. Remember, Jesus was The Prince of Peace, right? I don't think Jesus would espouse violence, do you?

Jesus would be for private enterprise based upon free ideas, free minds, free markets and voluntary exchange. Yes, I think Jesus would be a capitalist. Not that capitalism is completely moral, but the MOST moral of the economic systems out there.

On the environment: Jesus would be driving a Hummer ... one of the large ones at that. Remember, he had twelve disciples to haul around and he needed the four-wheel-drive as he spent a lot of time in the desert.

Vi

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That's because Americans have lost their moral compass. We have become a dependent class of citizen; citizens who think nothing of lobbying their government in order to use government force to violate the rights of their fellow countrymen to gain an advantage. We no longer think government theft is evil ... in fact, we celebrate it. You can see evidence of this right here on this forum. Read Med-'O-Mao's posts. They're full of the typical "soak the rich" bullshit espoused by the left these days.

Vi

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lol. I always pictured him in a 15 passenger van

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Hey, I know that guy! His van is a cover for transporting from Mendocino to San Diego.

Vi

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Answer you, or else? The authoritarian punk thing is getting old. Take this...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...T2009071302882

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where did i say or else?

it's pretty obvious where this is all going. you have no answers. for anything. i'm done.

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