Well I almost dont want to wake up each day Obama just lubes us up and bends us over for another ass raping as he kills america. Now in his health plan if you do not purchase and keep his health insurnace you will fined and acessed fines via your tax refund times. starts at $1000 fine and up and you have to carry the government insurance oir your fined for not having thier insurance.He makes the call if he thinks you can afford it or not. not the person who pays the bills which would be ooh the public. You will take this and pay for it or else.Big Government and socilaism right in your face.. Its gotten really realy bad a revolt is going to have to take place to get this idiot out and try to save whats left. Heres an article about it....

Senate bill fines people who refuse health care coverage

By RICARDO ALONSO-ZALDIVAR The Associated Press

WASHINGTON -- Americans who refuse to buy affordable medical coverage could be hit with fines of more than $1,000 under a health care overhaul bill unveiled Thursday by key Senate Democrats looking to fulfill President Barack Obama's top domestic priority.




The Congressional Budget Office estimated the fines will raise around $36 billion over 10 years. Senate aides said the penalties would be modeled on the approach taken by Massachusetts, which now imposes a fine of about $1,000 a year on individuals who refuse to get coverage. Under the federal legislation, families would pay higher penalties than individuals.

In a revamped health care system envisioned by lawmakers, people would be required to carry health insurance just like motorists must get auto coverage now.

The government would provide subsidies for the poor and many middle-class families, but those who still refuse to sign up would face penalties.

Called "shared responsibility payments," the fines would be set at least at half the cost of basic medical coverage, according to the legislation.

The goal is to nudge people to sign up for coverage when they are healthy, not wait until they get sick.

In 2008, employer-provided coverage averaged $12,680 a year for a family plan, and $4,704 for individual coverage, according to the Kaiser Family Foundation's annual survey. Senate aides, who spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak publicly, said the cost of the federal plan would be lower but declined to provide specifics.

The legislation would exempt certain hardship cases from fines. The fines would be collected through the income tax system.

The new proposals were released as Congress neared the end of a weeklong July 4 break, with lawmakers expected to quickly take up health care legislation when they return to Washington. With deepening divisions along partisan and ideological lines, the complex legislation faces an uncertain future.

Obama wants a bill this year that would provide coverage to the nearly 50 million Americans who lack it and reduce medical costs.

In a statement, Obama welcomed the legislation, saying it "reflects many of the principles I've laid out, such as reforms that will prohibit insurance companies from refusing coverage for people with pre-existing conditions and the concept of insurance exchanges where individuals can find affordable coverage if they lose their jobs, move or get sick."

The Senate Health Education, Labor and Pensions bill also calls for a government-run insurance option to compete with private plans as well as a $750-per-worker annual fee on larger companies that do not offer coverage to employees.

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Awesome, now i don't even have a choice over my own body. You know what we should all do? Stop paying our taxes, the IRS can't arrest everyone and who is going to work for free, the gubbermint won't be able to pay anyone salaries? Then we can all get together and boycott any consumption spending other than basic necessities. Then we will see who controls the country. Get 10% of the population to show up in DC and we got ourselves anything we want, you just can't say no to 10's of millions of people at your door. You can't shoot them all, and if you did the other 90% would revolt also.

My Dad was talking about the Pres the other day and I couldn't believe what came out of his mouth " I hope someone shoots that fucker"! Holy shit that floored me.

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It is far easier to ignorantly control others than it is to wisely control yourself.

I think a majority of Americans are pleased with Obama. Even though democracy is the rule of the pigs and even though majority based mob mentalities are usually dangerous, he does have the support of the majority. Deal with it or leave. America is founded upon democracy and this is all we have. A pure democracy can only thrive with a bountiful and healthy marketplace of ideas and choice, so I'd say we abandoned democracy for capitalist oligarchy a while ago, but we'll see what happens... I'm optimistic.

And feel free not to pay your taxes. I don't care.

Umm the majority is not happy with Obama go out walk a street and ask resal people. I have to prove to some democrate friends here in a democrate state.Its only 3 out of 10 think he is doing good. Now ask anyone in the middle class and it drops even more since his giant tax increase. technically we do not have to pay taxes as they are illegal according to the constitution but the federal government enforces them.Even his poll rating drop weekly

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The USA is not a Democracy, I don't know where you were educated, but the USA is a REPUBLIC. I doubt you even know what a republic is. "I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands, one Nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all". Remember that? or were you not taught that in school? America was founded on Liberty, look up the definition of Liberty and you will be surprised. It was also founded on the rule of common law, Hurt no one and cause no one loss. That is Common Law.


According to the polls Obama has tripled his base of disapproval. He started at 90% approval and in only 6 months has dropped that to 58%, yeah its a majority but by the time he has 1/4 of his term done he should have less than 10% approval, and by the end of his term will probably go down in history as the worst president to ever take the office.

You just keep on thinking that the gubbermint is going to give you a free lunch and save the world. That is exactly what "They" want.

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excellent post NoDrama rep to you

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even medicineman isn't happy... and he's extremely liberal

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"The Cruelest Trick Came From The Talibans, Who Allowed Plenty Of Drugs And Then Banned Music."
"Rarely is the question asked: is our children learning"- G.W.B.

Obama only had a 90% approval rating among DEMOCRATS, not overall. his overall approval rating has fallen about 8 points since the election.

Repeat, 90% approval from the DEMOCRATS ONLY, not overall.

Thank you.

Republic simply means that our nation is not lead by a monarch. Our government is democratic.

And that's not what "common law" means, either.