Hello I'm here to sell you insurance...it's for your own good. Oh and by the way if you don't buy it we're going to fine you $1,000. If you don't pay the fine...off to jail you go. Have a nice day!!

Well, that's basically the case already with auto insurance in most states. I can see the need for mandated auto insurance, but I can't really see mandating health insurance.

I sure as hell can't afford it unless they start handing out some pretty hefty subsidies. I like how they keep saying "if you refuse to purchase coverage", like you have a choice at all if you simply can't afford it. It isn't "refusing", it's just not being able to fucking afford it. I don't care how many laws say I have to go out and buy something, if I don't have the money to do it then I'm not going to do it. Period.

I understand the cost of health care is high and blah blah blah.... But forcing a bunch of people who can barely afford GAS and FOOD to buy something as frivolous as health insurance?

Preposterous.

lol JRH is the typical guy who spent tons of money going to the sheep collegfes learned what his liberal professor told him he needed to learn and then is easily offended. See now here is the thing. I never said I was the high and might grammer or spelling champ now did I? Did I post up and toss degrees out as if that made me better then anyone did I? Did I loose my temper to a direct personal attack to a member which by the way will get you ban but I won't turn you in for that your just ignorant to the forum rules I suppose like other things. I guess since Obama's own vice present just came out and officially stated the admisistration was wrong about the economy and wrong on it's decision to issue its stimulous package as it did. Now since this was all things I had stated before I guess that make me as dumb as you are stating. In the forum and threads so far I have been dead on about each fact I put out before it happened so yeah Im stupid. I also assume you must have went to one of the slower school as for myself we went in depth in the foundation and creation of politics and the parties and thier reforms and changes. Yeas basic political science which is what this all is. No need to have spent a ton of wasted money on one side college teaching then get your panties all wadded up as your inccorect and wasted so much money to not be allowed to freely learn. You be the great sheep you have been trained to do enjoy Obama policies and believe we are not a republic founded onb control by the people. The new Obama dictatorship into socialist forced living is going to be great for you hope you enjoy maybe take some anger management and an outside non liberal political science course to learn the truth would help you also. I like how you onointed me so great when i said I personally went out and took my own polls. I see that since I physically went out and did it to make my point and you clearly have not but sat at home sipping wine coolers drinking the Obama kool aide makes you much more correct in your eyes. Why not get off your ass go outside and actrually do a poll physically yourself and come back and report what you found. It maybe different it maybe the same but at least you will have some bases to open your mouth and speak as of right now you have nothing to throw out there as you personally can't even tak the time to follow up on your claims...So now come back curse me out and whimne about how your degree does this and my school taught me this and my high school didnt teach me anything...booo hooo you

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Im really at the point where I just wanna watch Tom and Jerry cartoons 24/7 I get depressed seeing what these pigs are pulling off each day. Let me know when the revolt is gonna happen and I will turn off the TV.

In all seriousness though, while the cats are chasing the ball ie; debating republic / democracy a real problem is brewing as we all can agree, and the mice are running free doing whatever the fuck they want. I dont just mean on here, nationwide people who consider themselves liberal or conservatives are bickering, and one thing remains clear, we are all americans. Whichever side you align with, these new policies affect you as well, it is time to forget party lines and semantics, just another distraction that makes it easier on these lawmakers. Don't fall victim to this trap, lets all join the 3rd party, the american party, and not worry about the idealogical, and start worrying about the reality, because what you call it and what it is, well I don't recognize what it is, I only know I dont like what it is.

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Actually the proper term is Federal Democratic Republic. The bottom line is that the country is a Republic, with Democratic institutions which means nothing more than imbeciles believe that they have the right to make government force people to do what they could not themselves for people to do.

About the only difference between a Monarchy and a Mobocracy, err, Democracy, is that at least under a Monarchy there is a limited amount of thieves. I'm beginning to believe that George Washington did the country a grave disservice when he refused to be named King.

Mostly, because at least then the government would tend more towards consistency and more away from the imbecility that is running rampant in the halls of Congress.

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What...............?

My favorite part was about drinking the "wine coolers" and the "Obama kool aid". What does that even mean? There's Obama kool aid? I want some!

whenever Kool-Aid comes into the conversation, I know it's time for me to go...peace out, bawly bawlerstein.

thats why im a libertarian

I too would at least say I lean this way as well, the problem is, it doesnt much matter what you call anything as it is at some point subject to corruption, greed, lies, you know, all the good stuff that makes our country what it is today. And I invite anyone to debate me on the corruption that exists today, I have seen some who are happy with whats going on and feel they are taken care of. But when you introduce bills to screw the american public and give certain reps no time to read, that is a serious problem beyond belief.

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it was never suggested that government insurance was mandatory. anyone can opt for private insurance.

with that said i disagree with the idea of mandatory personal health insurance. if someone wants to f*** themself by not being covered than so be it. i cant stand how they attempt to justify it by comparing it to auto insurance. such a ridiculous leap in logic since the whole reason auto insurance is mandatory is liability coverage.