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Old 07-03-2009, 01:27 PM
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ummm guess you didnt pay any attention to this whole debate then. The republic rules the federal. the federal is controlled by the republic. OPur president was to be our button pusher not the decider of which button to press. Come on now you have to have the very basic knowledge of our countries foundation...The people were to decide yes lets go to war with england Mr obama inform england we shall be at war..Now the president has gotten to where he decides we go where which is the problem at hand and what needs to be fixed as it is unconstitutional and wrong and Obama has taken full advantage and is trying to rewrite our constitution without amednment procedings forceing us into a Socialism country
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Ok doob simple direct question where in the constitution does it state we are a democratic anything nation. Dont debate just give me article and sectionn listings please this will make it simple. Please give me those to show your claim
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ummm guess you didnt pay any attention to this whole debate then. The republic rules the federal. the federal is controlled by the republic. OPur president was to be our button pusher not the decider of which button to press. Come on now you have to have the very basic knowledge of our countries foundation...The people were to decide yes lets go to war with england Mr obama inform england we shall be at war..Now the president has gotten to where he decides we go where which is the problem at hand and what needs to be fixed as it is unconstitutional and wrong and Obama has taken full advantage and is trying to rewrite our constitution without amednment procedings forceing us into a Socialism country
Huh?

That didn't make a bit of sense.
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what we are and how our government is acting are way different
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Old 07-03-2009, 01:35 PM
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a republic, which we are, is made up of all our people. Ok now the people were intended to make the decisions that our country did as a whole. follow me..Our president was basically a messneger to relay our message.That message was the decision of the republic. thats a reepublic...now what has happened which has not be written nto our constitution is the president is making decisions without the republic tell him what his decision is supposed to be... Now up to Obamas times here he has taken this flawwed setup that is illegally in place and using it for personal agendas and his personal belief we should be a socialistic body.The republic never made that vote and authorized him to make us a socialistic nation..that should make it much clearer
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Ok doob simple direct question where in the constitution does it state we are a democratic anything nation. Dont debate just give me article and sectionn listings please this will make it simple. Please give me those to show your claim
Are you really that dense? A representative democracy is a type of republic. The US is a representative democracy.

The constitution has NOTHING TO DO WITH IT. I'm not arguing that the us isn't a republic, I'm trying to inform you all that a republic CAN ALSO be a democracy.

The us started out as a true republic, with a select class of citizens as the voters and decision makers (this is what a pure republic is). Orignally (according to the constitution you apparently love so much) a person had to own land in order to be part of the voting pool. A person also had to be white, and male. Representatives were appointed by elected officials, and not elected by the public.

Now, any citizen can vote regardless of race or land ownership, and blacks and women can vote. Representatives are elected and not appointed. This is where we stopped being a true republic and became a representative democracy (STILL a republic, just a different type of republic).

Is that clear enough for you?
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yes dense boy and you know why they can vote..? keep up its called a constitutional amendment. which was made by the republic via a democratic vote by the republic. soooooo we are a republic only that uses a democratic vote not a deomcratic republic as that is different..Is that simple enough for you? I see you hate america and the constitution thats clear but please read it at least once so you can know what it says..not one word is mention as to the position of what this country is that pertains to democratic anything. the word republic is specifically used. Soooo we are 100% a republic and thats what this entire debate was about not what we act like but what we are and have been officially
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yes dense boy and you know why they can vote..? keep up its called a constitutional amendment. which was made by the republic via a democratic vote by the republic. soooooo we are a republic only that uses a democratic vote not a deomcratic republic as that is different..Is that simple enough for you? I see you hate america and the constitution thats clear but please read it at least once so you can know what it says..not one word is mention as to the position of what this country is that pertains to democratic anything. the word republic is specifically used. Soooo we are 100% a republic and thats what this entire debate was about not what we act like but what we are and have been officially
A representative republic: we elect people to represent us, (like they ever do) and then get to vote on what choices they come up with, yeah, it's that simple.
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