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Old 07-03-2009, 12:54 PM
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The definition of republic, from the same source:

–noun 1. a state in which the supreme power rests in the body of citizens entitled to vote and is exercised by representatives chosen directly or indirectly by them. 2. any body of persons viewed as a commonwealth. 3. a state in which the head of government is not a monarch or other hereditary head of state. 4. (initial capital letter) any of the five periods of republican government in France. Compare First Republic, Second Republic, Third Republic, Fourth Republic, Fifth Republic. 5. (initial capital letter, italics) a philosophical dialogue (4th century b.c.) by Plato dealing with the composition and structure of the ideal state.

Correct this is what we were founded on so thank you for showing we are a republic
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Old 07-03-2009, 12:55 PM
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I went to a Jesuit high school, earned my BA's at Butler, and finished both my MA and Ph.D. at Purdue.

And with your second bolded phrase, what the fuck are you talking about? I don't want a free lunch. I make over $80,000 a year and pay quite a bit of taxes. I don't mind it at all. And I don't think Obama will save the world. I don't even like him, but a majority of people voted for him and a majority still like him.

And finally, our government is officially democratic. Period. End of story.
Man does your head hurt from all the scrubbing? A PHD ? And you didn't know what the definition of a Republic really was? C'Mon brother you understand the difference now, yes?

I wasn't really directing the free lunch comment at you in particular, just Democracy advocates in general, because that is how they usually end. Once everyone realizes that they can have it all for free with no effort then the govt collapses due to no income. All governments that have tried pure Democracy have failed. History.

And Now I hope you also see that our government is a Republic, period. end of story. That may not be the way it is practiced, but that is the way it is SUPPOSED to be. Now with Obama supporting "Extended Detention" which is a euphemism for throwing people in Jail forever with no trial, habeus corpus, or charges, then yes he is operating above the Law, whats new? Our Government doesn't have to abide by the law, it can do whatever it wants , whenever it wants, to whomever it wants with pure abandonment of "Common Law". As long as the staus quo is upheld and the Agenda is allowed to go on this will only get worse for ALL of us.

It is the Governments responsibility to Protect your rights, but now a days people are just happy to not have it trample those rights on a daily basis.
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Old 07-03-2009, 12:58 PM
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Man does your head hurt from all the scrubbing? A PHD ? And you didn't know what the definition of a Republic really was? C'Mon brother you understand the difference now, yes?

I wasn't really directing the free lunch comment at you in particular, just Democracy advocates in general, because that is how they usually end. Once everyone realizes that they can have it all for free with no effort then the govt collapses due to no income. All governments that have tried pure Democracy have failed. History.

And Now I hope you also see that our government is a Republic, period. end of story.
Wrong.

Why do you people not realize that the words "republic" and "democracy" mean essentially the same thing?

The US is BOTH a republic AND a democracy. They mean the same thing.
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Old 07-03-2009, 12:59 PM
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The definition of republic, from the same source:

–noun 1. a state in which the supreme power rests in the body of citizens entitled to vote and is exercised by representatives chosen directly or indirectly by them. 2. any body of persons viewed as a commonwealth. 3. a state in which the head of government is not a monarch or other hereditary head of state. 4. (initial capital letter) any of the five periods of republican government in France. Compare First Republic, Second Republic, Third Republic, Fourth Republic, Fifth Republic. 5. (initial capital letter, italics) a philosophical dialogue (4th century b.c.) by Plato dealing with the composition and structure of the ideal state.

Correct this is what we were founded on so thank you for showing we are a republic
Thanks for not reading the whole post, and conveniently skipping over the definition of democracy.

Check your thesaurus, people. Republic and democracy are SYNONYMS for one another.
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Old 07-03-2009, 01:00 PM
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Main Entry: democracy Part of Speech: noun Definition: government in which people participate Synonyms: commonwealth, emancipation, equality, freedom, justice, republic, suffrage, egalitarianism, equalitarianism, liberal government, representative government
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doob your way off. Those words are not interchangable. You have to use them in the correct context. When you say a nation is a republic or a democracy only one of those is the meaning for what the basis is. the other is a word used to describe the way that process is then done. The republic uses a democratic vote to make sure the people (aka the republic) decide how the federal representation ( our congress) represents us as the Republic,get this, via a democratic vote..please put words in thier correct usage context is you wish to put them out there. A simple definition that is the same as another is not the same way to use them.
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If we were a democracy as your trying to imply we would not have a president or congress we would all vote for each issue that was involving our country. we would all be equaly people presidents which is not how we are
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Old 07-03-2009, 01:16 PM
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Wrong.

Why do you people not realize that the words "republic" and "democracy" mean essentially the same thing?

The US is BOTH a republic AND a democracy. They mean the same thing.
Wikipedia is not a good source for info, anyone can write a definition and send it in, especially people who were educated by the American system.

In a democracy i can vote to take all your possesions away, even take your children and sell tham as slaves, in a republic you could not do that even with 99.99% of the voters saying you could.

WATCH THIS VIDEO IT MIGHT HELP YOU UNDERSTAND............http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DioQooFIcgE
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Incorrect. We are a representative democracy, which is a type of republic.

Yes, the founding fathers envisioned the US as a pure republic. That is not what we are today. We are most certainly a representative democracy.
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Damn didnt everyone have a basic political science and history class in school? this is basic stuff all americans should know what the hell happened lol
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