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Old 07-09-2009, 10:19 AM
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I know this probably sounds like a dumb question but wouldn't this all kind of even out in the long run? If you have a gasoline vehicle you would pay tax at the pump, and probably during the vehicle transition stage (consumers switching to electric or non gasoline vehicles with government monitored GPS) would pay through government billing. The only ones who would lose out are the idiots who buy gasoline vehicles with government monitored GPS. The solution. . . buy a non-gasoline vehicle.

So is anyone going to answer my question?
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So is anyone going to answer my question?
So we all should ride bikes, everywhere? I prefer my gas powered truck for long hauls, thanks...
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Just got back from a 900 mile excursion through central Arizona, Sedona area where I own a time share, In my 04 dodge hemi, with 3 adults and three kids and all the bullshit carry-along that entails, about 7,000 Lbs. GVW, Got 19.5 MPG, average highway speed, 78MPH. Not bad for an old truck, eh?
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Just got back from a 900 mile excursion through central Arizona, Sedona area where I own a time share, In my 04 dodge hemi, with 3 adults and three kids and all the bullshit carry-along that entails, about 7,000 Lbs. GVW, Got 19.5 MPG, average highway speed, 78MPH. Not bad for an old truck, eh?
You'll need about 7 of these to do the same trip in a couple more years...

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Just got back from a 900 mile excursion through central Arizona, Sedona area where I own a time share, In my 04 dodge hemi, with 3 adults and three kids and all the bullshit carry-along that entails, about 7,000 Lbs. GVW, Got 19.5 MPG, average highway speed, 78MPH. Not bad for an old truck, eh?
was it a truck like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5vNn...=related:hump:
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Actually, it was, except the 4 door model. I have the predator power chip and yes, I could do that with an empty truck. The dodge Hemi is a wonderful engine for a truck. Plenty of torque and HP, and decent mileage to boot. It would lay rubber to the end of my cul-de-sac and probably further. I save that kind of shenanigans for my 500 HP 62 chevy nova. That puppy will get your attention, fast.
With 1200 lbs less weight, without all the people and cargo, I believe I could get 21-22 MPG on the highway if I drove the speed limits.
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So we all should ride bikes, everywhere? I prefer my gas powered truck for long hauls, thanks...
I'm not trying to cause debate here. I'm trying to get someone to answer the question. Maybe someone who has some in depth insight into economics.

In the long run, wouldn't it all even out? If you're paying tax for gas now, but then everybody switches to alternative fuels. . . would this not just replace the pump tax? If you're not paying tax at the pump, then you'd pay tax through the GPS billing company. (Am I looking at this right?)

I know that nobody wants to pay tax, but hey, if we're going to use the road system, somebody, somewhere needs to pay for the maintenance and upkeep, right?

Now what WOULDN'T be fair is if public transportation systems were funded from this GPS tax. Public transportation should be charging their own customers, not people who don't use their services, to pay for THEIR maintenance and upkeep and to build new facilities, etc.
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I'm not trying to cause debate here. I'm trying to get someone to answer the question. Maybe someone who has some in depth insight into economics.

In the long run, wouldn't it all even out? If you're paying tax for gas now, but then everybody switches to alternative fuels. . . would this not just replace the pump tax? If you're not paying tax at the pump, then you'd pay tax through the GPS billing company. (Am I looking at this right?)

I know that nobody wants to pay tax, but hey, if we're going to use the road system, somebody, somewhere needs to pay for the maintenance and upkeep, right?

Now what WOULDN'T be fair is if public transportation systems were funded from this GPS tax. Public transportation should be charging their own customers, not people who don't use their services, to pay for THEIR maintenance and upkeep and to build new facilities, etc.

Yup, there goes the one dollar all day bus pass.
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Nova cool! yeah i know a guy that totaled his hemi ram and offered me the engine to put in my s-10... i said no but that woulda been one bad ass little truck
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I'm not trying to cause debate here. I'm trying to get someone to answer the question. Maybe someone who has some in depth insight into economics.

In the long run, wouldn't it all even out? If you're paying tax for gas now, but then everybody switches to alternative fuels. . . would this not just replace the pump tax? If you're not paying tax at the pump, then you'd pay tax through the GPS billing company. (Am I looking at this right?)

I know that nobody wants to pay tax, but hey, if we're going to use the road system, somebody, somewhere needs to pay for the maintenance and upkeep, right?

Now what WOULDN'T be fair is if public transportation systems were funded from this GPS tax. Public transportation should be charging their own customers, not people who don't use their services, to pay for THEIR maintenance and upkeep and to build new facilities, etc.
The road system should be paid out of property taxes and state and local income taxes as everyone regardless of whether they own a vehicle or not use it.

If you walk on a sidewalk, you are using the roadways, if you bike, you are using the roadways, if you use a vehicle, you are using the roadways. The GPS tracker is an imbecilic attempt by a two bit bureaucrat to punish people for driving vehicles. The person that came up with it is obviously a Bureaucrat First, a Republican Second and a Conservative Last.

Besides, the entire idea being espoused behind a GPS tracker in every vehicle is a gross violation of privacy that reeks of attempts by the State to dictate to and control the populous.

It's a stupid idea, and violates the 4th amendment.
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