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Old 07-02-2009, 03:58 AM
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do you really think a new batch of republicans won't find the democrats' march toward totalitarianism a useful tool in their own power grabbing schemes? just as the democrats are building their regime on the bones left behind by their republican predecessors, a change to republican domination would only give a different set of traitors excuses for their failures. it's time we realized that the republican party has the same treasonous aims as the democrats and sought a different solution to swing us away from the socialist mania that seems to be sweeping the nation.

sheep around the globe are flocking to the nanny state banner. they have been duped into believing that government can be trusted to act in their best interests and your precious republican party has jumped on the bandwagon. they only pay lip service to the concepts of individual rights and are only too willing to use our complacency to further their own dreams of mega-government. it's probably too late, but maybe the republicans should be allowed to drown in their own duplicity and another platform developed to protect the constitution. there are plenty of great thinkers out there who oppose this rush toward global political rule, but they are always overshadowed by the two political giants or swept up and had their message diluted by the power structure behind our single party two party system. there are plenty of people out there who are still capable of understanding the importance of the rights of the individual, whose intellects haven't been dulled by the incessant chattering of pseudo-marxist propaganda and the public relations gloss plastered over the cult of fairness and entitlement.

it would be nice to believe that the millions of mindless sheep would just wake up and abandon the totalitarian scheming of the liberal establishment, but we all know that isn't going to happen. there are far too many folks out there that believe we have too many freedoms and need to be protected by mommy and daddy throughout our lives. this is what the democrats are promising, to create a nation of children that are incapable of wiping their own asses at the expense of those still determined to excel, and the republicans are just following the fad. they are promising a prize for everyone, not just the winners. it's the same crap we have been shoveling into our children's minds for decades, that there should be no losers. we all know that it will be a puny little trophy, not worth setting on the mantle, something to be shoved away in the junk drawer and forgotten. but it will be a trophy nonetheless and everyone will walk away feeling special.
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I am not talking a bought the destruction of the middle class that the democrat's want this two party system has to go How about giving the Libertarian party a chance I think Ron Paul would make 50 times the president as Barack hussein Obama I hope they don't come and arrest me for saying his middle name
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I am not talking a bought the destruction of the middle class that the democrat's want this two party system has to go How about giving the Libertarian party a chance I think Ron Paul would make 50 times the president as Barack hussein Obama I hope they don't come and arrest me for saying his middle name
You lost me after the first sentence, wait, that was the first sentence.
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Old 07-02-2009, 05:39 AM
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I agree with whoever said the two party system needs to end. Dem/Repub doesn't matter they're all the same. Reminds me of when I was a little kid and worked at a wrestling arena and found out one day that they're all buddies sharing the same locker room with just different doors and were just following the lead of whatever the owner wanted and that it was all pretend and fake.

Took the fun right out of it. Same deal, it's all a scam.
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do you really think a new batch of republicans won't find the democrats' march toward totalitarianism a useful tool in their own power grabbing schemes? just as the democrats are building their regime on the bones left behind by their republican predecessors, a change to republican domination would only give a different set of traitors excuses for their failures. it's time we realized that the republican party has the same treasonous aims as the democrats and sought a different solution to swing us away from the socialist mania that seems to be sweeping the nation.

sheep around the globe are flocking to the nanny state banner. they have been duped into believing that government can be trusted to act in their best interests and your precious republican party has jumped on the bandwagon. they only pay lip service to the concepts of individual rights and are only too willing to use our complacency to further their own dreams of mega-government. it's probably too late, but maybe the republicans should be allowed to drown in their own duplicity and another platform developed to protect the constitution. there are plenty of great thinkers out there who oppose this rush toward global political rule, but they are always overshadowed by the two political giants or swept up and had their message diluted by the power structure behind our single party two party system. there are plenty of people out there who are still capable of understanding the importance of the rights of the individual, whose intellects haven't been dulled by the incessant chattering of pseudo-marxist propaganda and the public relations gloss plastered over the cult of fairness and entitlement.

it would be nice to believe that the millions of mindless sheep would just wake up and abandon the totalitarian scheming of the liberal establishment, but we all know that isn't going to happen. there are far too many folks out there that believe we have too many freedoms and need to be protected by mommy and daddy throughout our lives. this is what the democrats are promising, to create a nation of children that are incapable of wiping their own asses at the expense of those still determined to excel, and the republicans are just following the fad. they are promising a prize for everyone, not just the winners. it's the same crap we have been shoveling into our children's minds for decades, that there should be no losers. we all know that it will be a puny little trophy, not worth setting on the mantle, something to be shoved away in the junk drawer and forgotten. but it will be a trophy nonetheless and everyone will walk away feeling special.
Absolute phobic crapola.
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do you really think a new batch of republicans won't find the democrats' march toward totalitarianism a useful tool in their own power grabbing schemes? just as the democrats are building their regime on the bones left behind by their republican predecessors, a change to republican domination would only give a different set of traitors excuses for their failures. it's time we realized that the republican party has the same treasonous aims as the democrats and sought a different solution to swing us away from the socialist mania that seems to be sweeping the nation.

sheep around the globe are flocking to the nanny state banner. they have been duped into believing that government can be trusted to act in their best interests and your precious republican party has jumped on the bandwagon. they only pay lip service to the concepts of individual rights and are only too willing to use our complacency to further their own dreams of mega-government. it's probably too late, but maybe the republicans should be allowed to drown in their own duplicity and another platform developed to protect the constitution. there are plenty of great thinkers out there who oppose this rush toward global political rule, but they are always overshadowed by the two political giants or swept up and had their message diluted by the power structure behind our single party two party system. there are plenty of people out there who are still capable of understanding the importance of the rights of the individual, whose intellects haven't been dulled by the incessant chattering of pseudo-marxist propaganda and the public relations gloss plastered over the cult of fairness and entitlement.

it would be nice to believe that the millions of mindless sheep would just wake up and abandon the totalitarian scheming of the liberal establishment, but we all know that isn't going to happen. there are far too many folks out there that believe we have too many freedoms and need to be protected by mommy and daddy throughout our lives. this is what the democrats are promising, to create a nation of children that are incapable of wiping their own asses at the expense of those still determined to excel, and the republicans are just following the fad. they are promising a prize for everyone, not just the winners. it's the same crap we have been shoveling into our children's minds for decades, that there should be no losers. we all know that it will be a puny little trophy, not worth setting on the mantle, something to be shoved away in the junk drawer and forgotten. but it will be a trophy nonetheless and everyone will walk away feeling special.
Yes, this is an excellent post as usual, Undertheice.

I don't see the Republican Party as being "precious" at all, but as a viable (electable) opponent of the Democrat Party. Hopefully, the Republicans are awakening to the fact that they are out of power because they lost their way and fell into the abyss of statism.

I want to see some truly conservative constitutionalists emerge in the Republican Party because with the way things stand with the dumbed-down American Public, I don't see the emergence of a viable third party.

Remember Ross Perot? He was the best hope for a third party in recent history ... and he only got 20% of the vote.

I'm with you though ... I would LOVE to see a Freedom Party emerge. I would LOVE to see the American electorate wake up. I would LOVE to see both the Democrat Party and the Republican Party thrown out on their collective ears. But, that won't happen anytime soon, if ever. So, in the meantime, we have to work with what we have.

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Old 07-02-2009, 02:10 PM
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Yes, this is an excellent post as usual, Undertheice.

I don't see the Republican Party as being "precious" at all, but as a viable (electable) opponent of the Democrat Party. Hopefully, the Republicans are awakening to the fact that they are out of power because they lost their way and fell into the abyss of statism.

I want to see some truly conservative constitutionalists emerge in the Republican Party because with the way things stand with the dumbed-down American Public, I don't see the emergence of a viable third party.

Remember Ross Perot? He was the best hope for a third party in recent history ... and he only got 20% of the vote.

I'm with you though ... I would LOVE to see a Freedom Party emerge. I would LOVE to see the American electorate wake up. I would LOVE to see both the Democrat Party and the Republican Party thrown out on their collective ears. But, that won't happen anytime soon, if ever. So, in the meantime, we have to work with what we have.

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Ross Perot had his shit together, and he knew that this spiraling debt is not sustainable. Instead of worrying about sustainable industry, we should be more worried about sustainable government. Where's a decent honest rating agency when you need one. I can not believe that the United States still has an investment grade rating. Any private individual in debt to the level that the United States is would likely be dinged down to subprime.

Of course as a general rule most individuals don't own 300 Million Slaves.
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I don't see the Republican Party as being "precious" at all, but as a viable (electable) opponent of the Democrat Party. Hopefully, the Republicans are awakening to the fact that they are out of power because they lost their way and fell into the abyss of statism.

I want to see some truly conservative constitutionalists emerge in the Republican Party because with the way things stand with the dumbed-down American Public, I don't see the emergence of a viable third party.
yet much of the conservative element of this country insists on identifying with the republican party, hoping that it has not completely turned its back on them. the truth is that both major parties are merely madison avenue inventions, created to bilk the public of their innate power through lies and illusion. they are both far too involved with special interests to give a flying fuck about whether the laws they shove down are throats are a positive influence on society as a whole or even whether they are within the bounds of the constitution.

at the moment, the republicans are not an electable opponent. they have been successfully demonized as the party of old white racist men by the liberal establishment. in response they have melded the nanny state ideology of the democrats with the prudish notions of the far right and created an abomination that doesn't even deserve a place at the table. they have become the same enemy of the individual that is currently in control of our government and taken away any real choice from the american voter.

if you are expecting a ready made third party to magically appear, don't hold your breath. such an entity is the product of effort and risk, just as any other form of success. the first step is abandoning the failure of the republican party instead of trying to fix it. some things are just broken beyond repair. the present power system is bent on totalitarianism, so we must obviously seek our salvation from another quarter. whether that salvation should be sought through secession, revolt, or by building a new party from the ground up is a matter of opinion.

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Absolute phobic crapola.
is there a term for the perfectly rational fear of government run amok? if so, that is my phobia.

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Absolute phobic crapola.

is there a term for the perfectly rational fear of government run amok? if so, that is my phobia.

by the way, love you too med.
It's just that your right wing persuasion come storming through every line you write. Come on now, it aint all that bad, is it? Geeze, lighten up. Wait untill we get single payer, then you can commit suicide. Oh yeah, Love and kisses, XOXOXOX.
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It's just that your right wing persuasion come storming through every line you write.
it never ceases to amaze me that because i consider the rights and responsibilities of the individual to be of the utmost importance i am labeled right wing or worse, while those who support a regime that leads inevitably to totalitarianism and the destruction of the individual are considered liberals or progressives. seems sort of backward to me, but i'm just an old anarchist with little care for such libels.
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