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Old 06-30-2009, 02:08 PM
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No one speaks national sovereignty like ron paul. he's the man. too bad the media kept him out of the public eye during elections.
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National sovereignty,
Personal freedom,
Monitary reform,
Foreign policy,

He's the real deal IMO.
Even if you don't like some of the stuff he wants,
he is by far the most principled person in Washington.

You gotta give him props.
He will not promise you money or privledge.
He will only offer you freedom.
Some people don't want freedom.
They want stuff, stuff stolen from someone else.
Those people will never like RP.
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Old 06-30-2009, 03:48 PM
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National sovereignty,
Personal freedom,
Monitary reform,
Foreign policy,

He's the real deal IMO.
Even if you don't like some of the stuff he wants,
he is by far the most principled person in Washington.

You gotta give him props.
He will not promise you money or privledge.
He will only offer you freedom.
Some people don't want freedom.
They want stuff, stuff stolen from someone else.
Those people will never like RP.
well said my friend
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Old 06-30-2009, 03:52 PM
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Just like Gordan Gheko, the wall street bandits like Bernie Madoff and friends played the government to the tune of a couple a trillion bucks. Had there been adequate enforcement of the regulations, I agree this calamity may have been averted, but the gross greed came from the private sector. Your postulate is that if they don't get caught, then it is alright. In fact greed is pretty uncontrollable, and to controll it you need strict enforced rules, non-partisan rules designed to keep greed at bay. Paul was a deregulator.
I did not postulate anything like that med. Read what I posted again. Greed is part of human nature, you will never be rid of it, the regulators let this happen and they knew it was happening. Government fucked us, not the system. Deregulate it and it will get no worse, the free market works extraordinarily well. Let Govt take control and it will be WORSE. Fraud, theft and Abuse is the name of the gubbermint game, anyone can tell you that.
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Honestly Med most of the problems you have with Ron Paul
Would be solved under a Ron Paul presidency.
Most of the Wall Street people would have a hard time inflating bubbles without a fiat currency.
The biggest crooks in the country (world?) in the FED would be out of work.

He was a doctor for Christ Sake,
I would trust him to fix the medical in this country before I would trust a Lawyer.
Espeasialy a socialist Lawyer, geeze.

Ron Paul was the only canidate worth a shit this run.
Hes about the only congress critter worth a shit now.
He will be the only Republican worth a shit in 2012, period.

Save possably Gary? Johnson former NM governor he 'might' work to.

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Old 06-30-2009, 04:02 PM
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Old 06-30-2009, 04:04 PM
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And another thing Med!!

If everything you say about Ron Paul were true,
don't you think he would have got a little play from all the big finaciers?
Obama got almost a million from Goldmen Sachs.
'Nuff said.
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National sovereignty,
Personal freedom,
Monitary reform,
Foreign policy,

He's the real deal IMO.
Even if you don't like some of the stuff he wants,
he is by far the most principled person in Washington.

You gotta give him props.
He will not promise you money or privledge.
He will only offer you freedom.
Some people don't want freedom.
They want stuff, stuff stolen from someone else.
Those people will never like RP.

Bravo. I agree with all of that!
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Thats right.
More should be left to the individual states to decide.

I like where you're coming from and would go a bit further.

"more should be left to the individual to decide"
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Old 06-30-2009, 08:23 PM
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I like where you're coming from and would go a bit further.

"more should be left to the individual to decide"
right on man. I am just saying that it should be on the state level.
then our voices would be more easily heard. Thats why those of us in California can smoke legally. We decided, not the federal Gov. Obviously.... damn DEA
 

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