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Old 07-25-2007, 11:14 AM
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Default WMDs found in Iraq.
The iraqis have found them: infamous WMDS------

Iraqis Blame US Depleted Uranium for Surge in Cancer

CAIRO — Iraq’s environment minister blamed Monday the use of depleted uranium weapons by U.S. forces during the 2003 Operation Shock and Awe for the current surge in cancer cases across the country.

As a result of “at least 350 sites in Iraq being contaminated during bombing” with depleted uranium (DU) weapons, Nermin Othman said, the nation is facing about 140,000 cases of cancer, with 7,000 to 8,000 new ones registered each year.

Speaking at a ministerial meeting of the Arab League, she also complained that many chemical plants and oil facilities had been destroyed during the two military campaigns since the 1990s, but the ecological consequences remain unclear.

“Our ministry is fledgling, and we need international support; notably, we need laboratories to better monitor air and water contamination,” she said.

The first major UN research on the consequences of the use of DU on the battlefield was conducted in 2003 in the wake of NATO operations in Kosovo, Bosnia, and Montenegro. The UN Environment Program (UNEP) said in its report after the research that DU poses little threat if spent munitions are cleared from the ground.

“Health risks primarily depend on the awareness of people coming into contact with DU,” UNEP writes in its 2004 brochure “Depleted Uranium Awareness.”

No major clean-up or public awareness campaigns have been reported in Iraq
Iraqis Blame US Depleted Uranium for Surge in Cancer - CommonDreams.org.......................YouTube - U.S. Army Depleted Uranium Training film (with edits)
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Old 07-25-2007, 11:23 AM
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So I see Bush wasn't lieing, we found WMDs in Iraq, too bad they are ours and too bad they showed up during and after the invasion.
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Old 07-26-2007, 09:13 AM
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Hey med I have a couple question for you. If depleted uranium (DU) works as fast as these reports suggest then... How many US Soldiers from the Mechanized Army (tank divisions) have died from cancer? How many British Soldiers have died from being around the Challenger 2 battle tank? How many soldiers combined have died from being around Chobham armour?
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Old 07-26-2007, 10:30 AM
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Hey med I have a couple question for you. If depleted uranium (DU) works as fast as these reports suggest then... How many US Soldiers from the Mechanized Army (tank divisions) have died from cancer? How many British Soldiers have died from being around the Challenger 2 battle tank? How many soldiers combined have died from being around Chobham armour?
Don't know. You'd have to check with DOA to get those figures. Did you watch the DOA video, The one they refused to show to soldiers using those weapons? DOA, Department of the Army, DON, DOAF, DOM. Maybe none have died and maybe thousands. That is, I'm sure, classified Info. Just let me say I'm glad they didn't have them when I was in the military, I was exposed to enough hazards, Mortars, AK 47 fire, etc.
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Good post, I found this also about supposed uses of WMD by allied forces, this phosphorus stuff is pretty horrendous but most Militaries around the world still use this stuff, I think I would rather die from cancer because at least theres drugs to help with that.Sorry I would have posted the link but had problems.

US forces 'used chemical weapons' during assault on city of Fallujah

By Peter Popham

Published: 08 November 2005



Powerful new evidence emerged yesterday that the United States dropped massive quantities of white phosphorus on the Iraqi city of Fallujah during the attack on the city in November 2004, killing insurgents and civilians with the appalling burns that are the signature of this weapon.
Ever since the assault, which went unreported by any Western journalists, rumours have swirled that the Americans used chemical weapons on the city.
On 10 November last year, the Islam Online website wrote: "US troops are reportedly using chemical weapons and poisonous gas in its large-scale offensive on the Iraqi resistance bastion of Fallujah, a grim reminder of Saddam Hussein's alleged gassing of the Kurds in 1988."
The website quoted insurgent sources as saying: "The US occupation troops are gassing resistance fighters and confronting them with internationally banned chemical weapons."
In December the US government formally denied the reports, describing them as "widespread myths". "Some news accounts have claimed that US forces have used 'outlawed' phosphorus shells in Fallujah," the USinfo website said. "Phosphorus shells are not outlawed. US forces have used them very sparingly in Fallujah, for illumination purposes.
"They were fired into the air to illuminate enemy positions at night, not at enemy fighters."
But now new information has surfaced, including hideous photographs and videos and interviews with American soldiers who took part in the Fallujah attack, which provides graphic proof that phosphorus shells were widely deployed in the city as a weapon.
In a documentary to be broadcast by RAI, the Italian state broadcaster, this morning, a former American soldier who fought at Fallujah says: "I heard the order to pay attention because they were going to use white phosphorus on Fallujah. In military jargon it's known as Willy Pete.
"Phosphorus burns bodies, in fact it melts the flesh all the way down to the bone ... I saw the burned bodies of women and children. Phosphorus explodes and forms a cloud. Anyone within a radius of 150 metres is done for."
Photographs on the website of RaiTG24, the broadcaster's 24-hours news channel, Rainews24, show exactly what the former soldier means. Provided by the Studies Centre of Human Rights in Fallujah, dozens of high-quality, colour close-ups show bodies of Fallujah residents, some still in their beds, whose clothes remain largely intact but whose skin has been dissolved or caramelised or turned the consistency of leather by the shells.
A biologist in Fallujah, Mohamad Tareq, interviewed for the film, says: "A rain of fire fell on the city, the people struck by this multi-coloured substance started to burn, we found people dead with strange wounds, the bodies burned but the clothes intact."
The documentary, entitled Fallujah: the Hidden Massacre, also provides what it claims is clinching evidence that incendiary bombs known as Mark 77, a new, improved form of napalm, was used in the attack on Fallujah, in breach of the UN Convention on Certain Conventional Weapons of 1980, which only allows its use against military targets.
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Don't know. You'd have to check with DOA to get those figures. Did you watch the DOA video, The one they refused to show to soldiers using those weapons? DOA, Department of the Army, DON, DOAF, DOM. Maybe none have died and maybe thousands. That is, I'm sure, classified Info. Just let me say I'm glad they didn't have them when I was in the military, I was exposed to enough hazards, Mortars, AK 47 fire, etc.
The reason that I asked is the armor on both tanks are made with depleted uranium.

Army Technology - M1A1 / M1A2 Abrams - Main Battle Tank

<QUOTE>DEPLETED URANIUM ARMOUR
"The M1A1 tank incorporates steel-encased depleted uranium armour."
</QUOTE>

Army Technology - Challenger 2 - Main Battle Tank

<QUOTE>
SELF-PROTECTION
The turret is protected with second generation Chobham armour.
</QUOTE>

The Chobham armour was created by a British company called QinetiQ. And its made by inserting ceramic blocks into depleted uranium and then putting an outer steel hull around it.
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The reason that I asked is the armor on both tanks are made with depleted uranium.

Army Technology - M1A1 / M1A2 Abrams - Main Battle Tank

<QUOTE>DEPLETED URANIUM ARMOUR
"The M1A1 tank incorporates steel-encased depleted uranium armour."
</QUOTE>

Army Technology - Challenger 2 - Main Battle Tank

<QUOTE>
SELF-PROTECTION
The turret is protected with second generation Chobham armour.
</QUOTE>

The Chobham armour was created by a British company called QinetiQ. And its made by inserting ceramic blocks into depleted uranium and then putting an outer steel hull around it.
I realize this, it was explained in the video. I was curious about DU so found this site:.......................YouTube - U.S. Army Depleted Uranium Training film (with edits)
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