On Canadian Health Care ... Fair & Balanced. - Page 4

ViRedd · #31 07-24-2007, 04:05 PM

From my signature:

If one person has a right to something he didn't produce, simultaneously and of necessity it means that some other person does not have right to something he did produce.

Vi

Dankdude · #32 07-24-2007, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by ;213258

The old and poor can have access to healthcare, which the governments help to pay for. If you have "universal healthcare", that just means you get "free" healthcare by having your taxes raised. You end up paying for it either way. It isn't free.

suicidesamurai, this is a subject I have done a lot of research on..

I am willing to have my taxes raised as long as we get something for the money....Besides with what we send fighting the War in Iraq a month we could run Universal Health Care for a year. What makes it so expensive in other countries like Europe is because they have a Negative population growth and do not have enough new people to add into the tax system, The United States on the other hand has a Positive population growth, which means that there are new people coming into the tax system all the time. With a positive population growth the tax burden won't hurt as much.

Vi if you like it or not, that is the way the country is headed... Get used to it.

Cugine · #33 07-24-2007, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by medicineman

Republican talking points, for sure! Must be nice to be rich.

If he is rich...he probably earned it..busted his ass...made the right decisions. can't expect him to pay for ppl who choose to be lazy and chose to freeload off the government.

ViRedd · #34 07-24-2007, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Cugine

If he is rich...he probably earned it..busted his ass...made the right decisions. can't expect him to pay for ppl who choose to be lazy and chose to freeload off the government.

Amen to that, Cugine.

Dank ...

There is a fund at the IRS for people to volunteer donations. Its understandable that perhaps YOU would be willing to be taxed more in order to pay for someone else's medical care, but by what moral authority do you offer up the money (the fruits of the labor) of another?

Vi

medicineman · #35 07-25-2007, 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by suicidesamurai

The old and poor can have access to healthcare, which the governments help to pay for. If you have "universal healthcare", that just means you get "free" healthcare by having your taxes raised. You end up paying for it either way. It isn't free.

And the current system isn't free either, Insurance premiums and copays cost the average patient (including employers contributions) approx 1,000 a mo. What % of that is profit. take out the profit and I'll bet you can insure (Universally) a patient for a lot less. Hey you rich guys keep your fancy health care, I'm not suggesting you lower your standards, just let the rest of us have health care.

suicidesamurai · #36 07-25-2007, 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by medicineman

And the current system isn't free either, Insurance premiums and copays cost the average patient (including employers contributions) approx 1,000 a mo. What % of that is profit. take out the profit and I'll bet you can insure (Universally) a patient for a lot less. Hey you rich guys keep your fancy health care, I'm not suggesting you lower your standards, just let the rest of us have health care.

RICH? FANCY HEALTHCARE? I'm actually not even insured at the moment. I'm in school and what money I make comes from working the poker tables in Biloxi.

I don't believe in things simply because they may be to my benefit. Individual freedom, minimal government, and personal responsibility are the standard I go by.

Dankdude · #37 07-25-2007, 05:11 AM

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Originally Posted by ViRedd

Amen to that, Cugine.

Dank ...

There is a fund at the IRS for people to volunteer donations. Its understandable that perhaps YOU would be willing to be taxed more in order to pay for someone else's medical care, but by what moral authority do you offer up the money (the fruits of the labor) of another?

Vi

Get used to it.... That is where the country is headed...