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Old 08-20-2009, 09:31 PM
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maybe thats the problem

if you go around trying to find the worst in everything you could hate a baby
You are officially the king of logical fallacy. You just fell prey to the slippery slope - your third fallacy. So please, when engaging in debate or edifying discourse of any kind, refrain from using logical fallacy to support your claims. We're not talking about an arguing point here. We're talking about objective science. Sorry.

And the next time you want to guilt me into a sense of nationalism, please, be logical. Use your gulliver.
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Old 08-20-2009, 09:43 PM
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You are officially the king of logical fallacy. You just fell prey to the slippery slope - your third fallacy. So please, when engaging in debate or edifying discourse of any kind, refrain from using logical fallacy to support your claims. We're not talking about an arguing point here. We're talking about objective science. Sorry.

And the next time you want to guilt me into a sense of nationalism, please, be logical. Use your gulliver.


its interesting you have alot to say yet at the same time you say nothing. on the other hand i have been more than informative with my retorts to your debasement of my original quote which invited this discourse

in other words. im right and your wrong


u try to find things wong with your country and i submit if you focus on all the wrong things you will miss the beauty of the thing you hating on

if you focus too much on how a baby poops all the time and crys all the time and keeps you up all the time and costs you money, you will forget how cute and wonderful a baby is

so in essense if you focus on all the bad things about taking care of a baby you could even end up hating soming so precious as a baby

or something as precious as america


so you are wrong again my freind this was a perfect analogy
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So what - it's the first time she felt pride. Now are you going to tell me you get a little pang in your heart when you see the flag. Come on. So weak. I can't honestly say I've ever felt true pride when looking at the grand scheme of our history.
LOL

Gosh jrh...

I didn't say any of that.

I was just saying I can vouche for whoever posted that
picture, because I remember her saying it.
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So what - it's the first time she felt pride. Now are you going to tell me you get a little pang in your heart when you see the flag. Come on. So weak. I can't honestly say I've ever felt true pride when looking at the grand scheme of our history.
I can't say I feel it either, but I look at my children and hope that for their sake this country straightens itself out.
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I can't say I feel it either, but I look at my children and hope that for their sake this country straightens itself out.
And I as well. I think Obama hopes for the same. I highly doubt his ambition and desire for presidency is somehow rooted in an agenda to drive the US to the shitter for some ulterior purpose. That's my only point. Obama does not hate America, as person to which I'm responding has stated.
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Basically the way people are trying to put out there that Obama hates America, and are afraid for the country, or crying that they want their country back, means that they are questioning the country. And so by the same logic you place on Obama, there is a "very good" chance that you too hate America.

It is a piss poor argument.

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Obama's pastor's words (notice the dual genitive, in essence removing responsibility from the first noun) were interpreted and juxtaposed intentionally for the reason of providing foundation for facetious claims. And besides, the pastor said, NOT Obama.
Adding to this. The pastor was talking about http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuskege...the_Negro_Male This when he made that speach, and had very good reason to.

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The Tuskegee Study of Untreated Syphilis in the Negro Male[1] (also known as the Tuskegee Syphilis Study, Public Health Service Syphilis Study, or the Tuskegee Experiment) was a clinical study conducted between 1932 and 1972 in Tuskegee, Alabama, by the U.S. Public Health Service. Investigators recruited 399 impoverished African-American sharecroppers with syphilis for research related to the natural progression of the untreated disease, in hopes of justifying treatment programs for blacks.
So the government did a 40 year study watching these people die and not treating them, and charging them for coffins and funerals of them and their infected families. They kept the truth from them to see what would happen if the disease ran the full course (which was horrible) by not giving them the drugs that were already in place.

After talking about those events for an hour and talking about how the children died people going blind, wives where were not part of the experiment getting sick and dying horrible deaths, because a group of doctors wanted to see what happens, I think it would be hard pressed for anyone to be in love with the country.

Do I think that Rev. Wright is a nut, yes. But that just happens to be a time that he had a very good argument for it.
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You know I'm Canadain and I have been reading your posts and watching your News about how you guys feel .Obama is to blame for whats not right with America today and your really dogging him as if he had or has somthing to do with all the shit your in right now! Now I may be going out on a limb here and this is why I usually don't post to boards as I hate back lashes but here it goes.. To me it like handing over a child from another very bad mother and saying here you fix this, it's all good there should be any problems here. You had BUSH in power for 8 LONG years and he FUCKED it all up for the WHOLE WORLD and the WHOLE world has NOT forgotten and we are all paying for his very stupid discision to take this whole world down the toilet. Then you finally said enough is enough got a good president and now your dogging him?? I don't get it? I also don't get the 2 different laws in your country? Federal laws and your state laws I think it is. I think Obama needs to step up to the plate about this type of crap and the 40 year jail sentencing for pot and seeds in as stupid as it gets. Be the president he said he was going to be, do his homework peace out headband707
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bush was a great president. this is a fact

obama has spent more money in the past 7 months than bush did during his 8 years as president and after fighting 2 wars and bringing us out of the worst attacked on american soil while destroying an intrenched enemy


this country was fine before obama came to "change" everything



the only problem was the economy going south at the end of his presidency and that was cuz the democrats since clinton were forcing mortgage companies to give loans to people who could not afford it so that they could get re-elected and so clinton could be like see home ownership has risen by the millions in my presidency

and now after they all default they try to blame it on bush like everything else.

but it was bush who went to congress before the meltdown and told them they must reform these lender or there will be a catastophe.

guess what, they we so busy saying "bush lied people died" that they told him to piss off we are too busy tearing you down to do anything about it


then obama comes around playing on this hate

and the sheep vote him in

but now he is changing america into a socialistic state bulling the people that do not agree with him and spending like a drunkin sailer

this is why everyone dislikes him.

after the election I was willing to give him the benifit of the doubt and guessed he would govern bipartizenly as he said he would during the elections

boy how wrong was i


bush was a great president

nothing you guys say about him that he did was bad.

i work in Iraq. from my office in the USA and that coutnry is eternally happy and one of the most promising arab countries out there now. dont ever shit on thier won freedoms.

it is masked dictators like obama who destroy countries like the syrian dictators that run lebanon

the truth is hard to find but i speak it.
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