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Old 05-31-2009, 01:17 AM
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No one will EVER convince me that 911 wasn't an inside Job. Sure we may not have flown the planes, but somehow our gubbermint knew about it, or colluded with them over it. It takes only a simple mind to realize that buildings do not fall straight down into their own footprints without help from explosives, NOT EVER. And the real kicker is the 3rd building that went down, building #7 that had a few VERY SMALL and easily controlled fires that even the NYFD said was not a threat in any way. yeah it fell into its own footprint too. the whole thing was a false flag to get the patriot act passed and our rights trampled!

There are worse accidents that have happened to steel skyscrapers and NONE of them fell. The only buildings that have fallen into their own footprint are buildings that were DEMOED!

Know how long it takes to have some off course jet accompanied by Fighter aircraft? Minutes or less. Just as soon as the aircraft leaves its flight path people in the military are notified and that plane is brought down. Try flying a plane any where near DC and veering off course, you don't get anywhere near a building before you are reduced to pieces. If it were really that easy to take over a jet with a plastic butter knife and fly it into a large building and ultimately bring that building down they would be doing it all the time. Fact is that peanuts kill more people than terrorists ever will. If we can eradicate peanuts we have done more good than all the war mongering we can buy. Silly when you think of it that way isn't it?


Its suicide to use Nuclear Weapons, the only ones I seriously think would use them are the Jihad Muslim's who believe in sacrifice to attain the 99 virgins. So yeah we need to watch out for Iran and Pakistan IMO. Most countries just want nukes so they can have more say in the direction their country takes, that and its hard to bully someone who can start the end of the world.
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im not a large nut on conspiracys..not that i dont mean to say that they do not exist..they are impossible to prove.
the reason i dont respond to these kinds of posts is..what could obama do about NK? NOTHING. he is a broke dick with no moral authority and a demoralized military. he has no moral authority to order a military attack on anyone.
obama is mostly a dead duck in the water as far as international policy is concerned . his domestic fiscal policy is running what is left of the jobs out of the country and puting the finnishing touch's on manifacturing in the USA.and destroying the US dollars and the middle class . oh well..you were all warned. now you are going to have 4 long years of economic depression if not for 16 to 20 years.you asked for it..you got it.
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I have a better question ... what should be done about the US?
1. Illegally invaded a sovereign nation.
2. Allowed antiquities to be looted from said sovereign nation.
3. Allowed citizens to be tortured and participated in torture ... which is a war crime.
4. Looted resources from said nation.
5. Perpetrated a false flag attack killing more than 3000 people on US soil.
6. Lied in order to invade a sovereign nation actually two ... can't forget about Afghanistan.
7. Have bombed several nations. Killing innocent civilians.

So who is the real threat to the world and what should be done about it?

Let not be hypocrites shall we?
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Come on lady ... use your head ... the oil ...

The US put a great deal of pressure on the Iraqis to sign a oil deal with them ... I for one was happy to see it didn't go the US way ... but that is what they wanted. Along with putting in US bases. Those are the facts.


Yes ... we have had false flag attracks before and 911 was definitely one of them. Think about it with logic ... how could not one ... but four planes get pass one of the greatest defenses in the world? Why didn't any heads roll for the so called lack of security? Why didn't the dog bark? How did the SS know that bush wasn't in any danger? Who told NORAD to stand down? When a plane when off course in the past and after 911 they were in the sky in minutes ...who told them to stand down?
Do you really think the war criminals could have gotten away with those illegal invasion without 911? Do you think they could get away with all the spying and other war crimes without 911? Do you think buildings design to withstand a plane and fire can come crashing straight down in 15 seconds after burning for only an hour? 911 was on inside job ... most countries already know it ... the sheeple asleep at the wheel ... the corporate media sees to it ... in the US are the only ones that accept the bullshit government story.

Johnson was a war criminal too ... and he should have been tried as one. The bush regime did the same shit Johnson did for the same reasons.
But then you must think, "Why would we want to go fight in Afghanistan, knowing that it will be defeat?"

Wouldn't it have been easier to blame the entire thing on an Iraqi faction, thus avoiding the inevitable defeat in Afghanistan? Afghanistan has/had nothing to offer, and thus we would have no reason to go there without an actual security threat.

If the government stood to make money from the 9/11 incident, then it would have been quickly used up due to the high costs of the Iraq and Afghani Wars.

Sure, there are many coincidences that don't seem right, but that doesn't exactly mean that they are what they are. In Forensics, they teach you to look past the obvious. You must look into who would gain from the incident, and for me, there seems very little reward.
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Well the original question was "What should be done?"

Lat's face it, they already have nukes, Iran will have nukes.
Both of these countries have already proved that there is no negotiation with them. They say they will do one thing and then do another.
I say let them have the nukes, but with this caveat. If even one nuke touches US Soil, or the soil of our allies. They will be bombed in to the stone age.
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Well the original question was "What should be done?"

Lat's face it, they already have nukes, Iran will have nukes.
Both of these countries have already proved that there is no negotiation with them. They say they will do one thing and then do another.
I say let them have the nukes, but with this caveat. If even one nuke touches US Soil, or the soil of our allies. They will be bombed in to the stone age.
There is nothing worse than a nuclear war. We don't want that. They cannot have nukes. Along with the technology comes the ability to export it. North Korea has already tried to build a nuclear reactor in Syria, which was later bombed by the Israelis.

Allowing Iran to have nukes is the same thing as allowing the Holocaust to happen again. They will try to destroy Israel, which in turn will cause Israel to launch nukes at Iran.

Nuclear winter would kill all of us.
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GENIUS IDEA...SURE..let a group of people who would strap bombs on their own children and send them into a market to blow up a bunch of people shopping have nukes..the muslims..unlike most people on the planet do not seem to give a shit if they live or die.
it would be better that they died before a bunch of other INNOCENT people die.
the north koreans starve. kim jong beats the war drum and has been for years. his army is even hungry. a hungry army is like a tiger without teeth or claws. it can growl some but doesnt have alot of fight in it.
the north koreans. unlike the muslims are not for the most part suicidal.
every time kim jong beats the war drum the US gives in to

some trade agreements. or monatary assistance.
this is what he has learned over his years of doing this kind of extortion.
the best way would to be to explain how a little spoiled child would be in a market wanting a toy or candy . cept this one wont shut up even after you buy him the toy. he just keeps wanting more and more.

i always love seeing this fat fuck surrounded by starving people..what a complete ass hole' .
take a good look at this lefties. this is what your plutocracy is all about
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GENIUS IDEA...SURE..let a group of people who would strap bombs on their own children and send them into a market to blow up a bunch of people shopping have nukes..the muslims..unlike most people on the planet do not seem to give a shit if they live or die.
it would be better that they died before a bunch of other INNOCENT people die.
the north koreans starve. kim jong beats the war drum and has been for years. his army is even hungry. a hungry army is like a tiger without teeth or claws. it can growl some but doesnt have alot of fight in it.
the north koreans. unlike the muslims are not for the most part suicidal.
every time kim jong beats the war drum the US gives in to

some trade agreements. or monatary assistance.
this is what he has learned over his years of doing this kind of extortion.
the best way would to be to explain how a little spoiled child would be in a market wanting a toy or candy . cept this one wont shut up even after you buy him the toy. he just keeps wanting more and more.

i always love seeing this fat fuck surrounded by starving people..what a complete ass hole' .
take a good look at this lefties. this is what your plutocracy is all about
What's wrong with you? First you categorize a billion people as not valuing life whatsoever, and then you say that the American left favors a plutocracy. You're a fucking loon.
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But then you must think, "Why would we want to go fight in Afghanistan, knowing that it will be defeat?"

You are not very well informed on these issues ... you really should do your homework before you post. PNAC obviously had plans for Afghanistan. Losing doesn't matter ... as long as it creates a perpetual war ... with perpetual profits for the MIC and the oil companies ... check it people ...

US PREPARING FOR A WAR WITH AFGHANISTAN BEFORE 9/11, INCREASING CONTROL OF ASIA BEFORE AND SINCE

Afghanistan: The Other Illegal War
The U.N. Charter provides that all member states must settle their international disputes by peaceful means, and no nation can use military force except in self-defense or when authorized by the Security Council. After the 9/11 attacks, the council passed two resolutions, neither of which authorized the use of military force in Afghanistan.
The invasion of Afghanistan was not legitimate self-defense under article 51 of the charter because the attacks on Sept. 11 were criminal attacks, not "armed attacks" by another country. Afghanistan did not attack the United States.



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Wouldn't it have been easier to blame the entire thing on an Iraqi faction, thus avoiding the inevitable defeat in Afghanistan? Afghanistan has/had nothing to offer, and thus we would have no reason to go there without an actual security threat.
Like I said ... you need to do your homework ... PNAC wanted control of the area ... which is what they have ... and they have plenty of reasons for going there ... it was clear Afghanistan was not a security threat ... the only threat is the US illegally invading countries.

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If the government stood to make money from the 9/11 incident, then it would have been quickly used up due to the high costs of the Iraq and Afghani Wars.
I'm not sure if you are being ignorant or just stupid ... have you seen the profits of Haliburton ... a cheney company and Bushel ... along with other defense contractors since these illegal wars started? ... the information is out there ... you need to do the research. They are looting the treasury to feed their geedy friends ...

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Sure, there are many coincidences that don't seem right, but that doesn't exactly mean that they are what they are. In Forensics, they teach you to look past the obvious. You must look into who would gain from the incident, and for me, there seems very little reward.
That first sentence doesn't make sense. Why wouldn't mean that they are what they are? The evidence is clear ... Skyscaper that have never in the history before or since ever fell in their own footprint in 15 sec. due to a plane crash and fire is not just a coincidence ... it's evidence of foul play ... and it is you that needs to look into who gain after 911 ... the information is out there ... there may be no reward for you ... but for PNAC the reward is a NWO ... thank God people from NYC and the architects and engineer are demanding a open investigation. It' never ceases to amaze me that people actually bought the government bullshit story about those buildings. It defies physics ... yet people will accept the government cock and bull over the laws of physics ... unfuckingbelievable
... as far as "what should we do?" How about cleaning our own house before we start pointing fingers at another country hmmmm?
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