Yeah, unless they sell their nuclear technology to another crazy motherfucker like that Iranian nazi Ahmedinijad. Then what? Nuclear proliferation is/has long been a goal numerous nations have been trying to squash, and it's a noble goal, but when dealing with a situation like N. Korea/Kim Jong Il, the options are few. They've made no attempts at democracy, have basically no exports, and their country has been starving as a result. What makes them even more bitter is that S. Korea, for the most part, contrastly, is doing well. Their people have more freedom and a higher standard of living than they've ever known, and guess what, they like it. It's truly sad that one person like Kim Jong Il continues to oppress his own people, starve them, and stay stubbornly opposed to joining the rest of the civilized world and democracy.

As far as what to do with them, that is largely dependent on confirmable intel. If they are as far along with their nuclear and missile technology as we've been led to believe, then the "Bush doctrine" of pre-emptive intervention I whole-heartedly endorse. It'd be nice to have some other country step up the plate and take on the scumbags of the world like Kim Jong Il, but of course, they don't. The question is, at what point does America reach a financial breaking point fighting for "good" in the world? I don't want this country to have to be the one that is forced to intervene, but the fact is, no other will- they simply don't think they have to. The world's gotten spoiled by Americans being the good superpower of the world, and letting us fight all the noble fights. Other countries, (many actually) are simply opposed to the ideals/economy of America, and want to make anything we do as difficult as possible. That part, pisses me off.

One thing's almost assured though, whatever Obama does or doesn't do about all this, is probably the wrong thing. lol

__________________
“Under my plan of a Cap and Trade system, electricity rates would NECESSARILY SKYROCKET.” -BARACK OBAMA

For the text in bold, why does it piss you off that other countries disapprove of our hegemonic economical system and our imperialistic domination of the rest of the world. I bet you $100 if you were a citizen of one of these other countries, you would be pissed too, Take a step back, and once examined with an objective eye, it's quite easy to see why we're hated (and justifiably so). I travel abroad at least 5 times a year and I do get tired of being negatively judged just because I'm an American, but I have to remind myself that we, as a country, deserve negative judgment. Every citizen is not a walking, talking manifestation of their government, but many people will treat us as such because they're so disgusted by our holier-than-thou ethnocentrism.

And for the text in red, are you saying that, because you disagree with Obama's ideology, he is incapable of making ANY correct decisions? Are you frickin' serious? So because he's a democrat, he can do NOTHING right? You, my friend, have just exposed the extent of your one-sided blindness. Congratulations.

I agree N.Korea is most likely saber rattling, and would like to get some concessions, foreign aid etc. but whenever a population is ruled by a dictator like the situation in N.Korea the problem becomes compounded. If he has a bad hair day and decides to pull some shit militarily who in his country will stop him ? Then if the USA responds militarily...what willl China do? Side with us, stay out of it militarily while issuing their own world currency (fucking the US dollar hard) or side with N. Korea militarily?

China is the key, we need to be talking to them and getting them involved in a positive way. I think I smell "regime change" on the horizon if this situation blossoms. Chinese gov't. officials may not want regime change though as a "free" N.Korea could lead to unrest in China. Nobody wins if China and the USA back opposite sides that's for sure.

I hope this doesn't get out of hand, I'm not looking forward to World war III. The Japanese people must be watching this very closely. They still remember what happens when old school nukes start flying. I wonder if Obama will order Korean Americans into concentration camps like FDR did to the Japanese Americans during WW II ? (sarcasm...I think)

Who cares how often and why you travel dude? lol You want to hate on America go right ahead. America thanks you for that. My comment about Obama was tongue-in-cheek, but since you're obviously a big fan of his, your sensitivity level to such comments is what's clearly exposed here. Obama has little to no experience in geopolitics, and is far outside the comfortable surroundings of a "community organizer", and it shows. IMO, showing weakness or thinking that we can simply get N. Korea to do what we want (and what most of the world wants) diplomatically is a joke. And yes, so far Obama's track record for making "correct" decisions for our country gives me a LOT of doubt he'll make the right one in this situation.

__________________
“Under my plan of a Cap and Trade system, electricity rates would NECESSARILY SKYROCKET.” -BARACK OBAMA

I have a better question ... what should be done about the US?
1. Illegally invaded a sovereign nation.
2. Allowed antiquities to be looted from said sovereign nation.
3. Allowed citizens to be tortured and participated in torture ... which is a war crime.
4. Looted resources from said nation.
5. Perpetrated a false flag attack killing more than 3000 people on US soil.
6. Lied in order to invade a sovereign nation actually two ... can't forget about Afghanistan.
7. Have bombed several nations. Killing innocent civilians.

So who is the real threat to the world and what should be done about it?

Let not be hypocrites shall we?

__________________
Our Beautiful Ladies ...
Keep Them Safe Keep Them SECRET!
911 ... inside job!

Well, actually technically we never were at peace with Iraq after the 1991 invasion so we never really engaged in a new war and we were in control a large portion of their airspace (the no fly zones) so it is kind of hard to say that they were in fact a soveriegn nation.


We really can't be held responsible for what the citizens of that nation did with their own national treasures...

That accusation depends on one's definition of torture

Yeah, that goes along with waging war, got to pay for the war some how...

Do you have conclusive proof?

Do you have witnesses that will verify that it in fact a false flag attack?

Because according the the Constitution an accusation of Treason must be backed by two witnesses testifying to the same act of Treason. So just tossing the accusation around with out witnesses actually goes against the legal system of the United States.

No, I'm pretty sure Afghanistan was hosting Obama, err Osama bin Laden after 9-11 and refused to surrender him.

Yeah, every nation tends to do that...

Especially when they have a global hegemony just look at Britain and Spain.


Withdraw our soldiers from EVERYWHERE and secure our own borders.

Extend the hand of trade to every nation and show that we have no interest in pursuing interventionist policies either economically (through IMF loans that leave those nations screwed over for perpetuity and at the mercy of the banksters.) or militarily (that should be self-explanatory I think.)

Quote:

Let not be hypocrites shall we?

Large difference between conventional munitions and nuclear munitions.

__________________
Libertas inaestimabilis res est - Liberty is a thing beyond all price. | Sic Semper Tyrannis

C'mon man. What resources have we looted from Iraq? The Iraqi's said that our oil contracts were unfair, and thus they opened them up for bidding. They acted as a sovereign nation and told us that we would have to pay more money. I know that it's popular to hate on the Iraq War, but lets at least state the true facts.

We have had false flag attacks before, but 9/11 was in no way done by the U.S. Just think about it with logic. Why would we sacrifice so many of our citizens, when we could accomplish the same goal (invasion of Afghanistan) with no loss of life? Do you remember how we got entangled in Vietnam? LBJ and the government crafted a fake North Vietnamese naval attack, which drew the ire of citizens, enabling public support for the campaign.

Bullshit ...we were not "technically" at war with Iraq after the 1991 invasion and the US set Hussein up claiming they wouldn't interfere in Arab affairs when he told the US ambassador to Iraq that Kuwait was drilling Iraqi oil and not paying for it. The US wanted him to invade Kuwait so they could put US bases in the area which they did ... which piss Bin Laden off.

Again bullshit ... we became responsible when we illegally invaded ... we didn't have any trouble guarding those oil fields now did we.



What part of waterboarding is torture and against the law don't you understand? Why does your bushwhacked mind find that concept so hard to grasp?



Waging a war and looting the country resources is against international law and is a war crime. Look it up.



Oh yeah ... I've got plenty of proof with plenty of witnesses ...
More than enough to warrant an non partisan independent investigation with subpoena and arresting power. That would put all the war criminals behind bars ... that's why the government is against it ... but the families members of the 911 in NY want one ...and are working to have one. And they have the legal power to do so.

They know that a real investigation will show the government involvement.



Err no ... 911 was an inside job to justify illegal invasion to further a political agenda. And there is no proof what so ever that Bin Laden was responsible for 911 ... perhaps you can use your infinite wisdom to explain to us why it is not listed as one of his crimes with the FBI ... fill us in on that one bright boy ...

Yeah and still crimes against humanity ... but I'd doubt you'd understand the concept.



Either that or have the country that we have bases on put bases on US soil ... that would work too.

What does this have to do with the hypocrisy of the US?

__________________
Our Beautiful Ladies ...
Keep Them Safe Keep Them SECRET!
911 ... inside job!

Are you going to respond to my comment?

I would love to hear your take on it.

Come on lady ... use your head ... the oil ...
The US put a great deal of pressure on the Iraqis to sign a oil deal with them ... I for one was happy to see it didn't go the US way ... but that is what they wanted. Along with putting in US bases. Those are the facts.

Yes ... we have had false flag attracks before and 911 was definitely one of them. Think about it with logic ... how could not one ... but four planes get pass one of the greatest defenses in the world? Why didn't any heads roll for the so called lack of security? Why didn't the dog bark? How did the SS know that bush wasn't in any danger? Who told NORAD to stand down? When a plane when off course in the past and after 911 they were in the sky in minutes ...who told them to stand down?
Do you really think the war criminals could have gotten away with those illegal invasion without 911? Do you think they could get away with all the spying and other war crimes without 911? Do you think buildings design to withstand a plane and fire can come crashing straight down in 15 seconds after burning for only an hour? 911 was on inside job ... most countries already know it ... the sheeple asleep at the wheel ... the corporate media sees to it ... in the US are the only ones that accept the bullshit government story.
Johnson was a war criminal too ... and he should have been tried as one. The bush regime did the same shit Johnson did for the same reasons.

__________________
Our Beautiful Ladies ...
Keep Them Safe Keep Them SECRET!
911 ... inside job!