More on Moore's "Sicko."

ViRedd · #1 07-14-2007, 04:44 PM

Moore's 'Sicko' is sickening

Posted: July 12, 2007
1:00 a.m. Eastern

By Larry Elder

© 2007

Nearly 50 million "Americans" lack health care insurance. At least, director Michael Moore makes this claim in "Sicko," his new "documentary" about America's supposedly awful health care system.

Nearly 50 million Americans without health care insurance? For what it's worth, the Centers for Disease Control puts the number of uninsured at 43.6 million, and the Census Bureau at 44.8 million.

First, understand that lack of health care "insurance" does not mean a lack of health care. Many emergency rooms, by law, provide medical care to anyone who walks in, whether an illegal or legal resident of this country.

Second, when Moore asserts that 50 million Americans lack health care insurance, he most assuredly includes some of the estimated 11 million to 20 million illegal aliens living here. Of people born in America, 86 percent have health care coverage. For non-citizens, only 57 percent have health care insurance.

Now examine those who lack health care insurance.

Nearly half go without health insurance only for four months or less, usually while between jobs. Others with employment could easily add health care insurance through their work for a very small premium. Many without health care insurance consist of young people (18 million uninsured are between the ages of 18 and 34) who consider themselves – given their youth and good health – unlikely to face large health care costs.

Over 14 million of the uninsured, according to the Census Bureau, live in households earning $50,000 or more annually. Over 7 million are in households earning more than $75,000 a year. These people could afford health care insurance, either out-of-pocket or by making minor adjustments to their lifestyles. A small number of the uninsured include criminals. Should taxpayers provide health care for them, as well?

"Sicko" followed the travails of Americans with health care insurance – their squabbles with their providers, denials of treatment by insurance companies, their dissatisfaction with the unwillingness of insurance companies to cover certain procedures. But according to an ABC News-Kaiser Family Foundation-USA Today survey, 89 percent of Americans with health care insurance say they are, in fact, satisfied with the quality of care they receive.

To "solve" health care, Moore wants America to adopt a European or Canadian style of universal health care, or single-payer system. Does Moore really expect Americans to tolerate long lines for services, months-long delays for important, critically necessary operations and procedures, and the rationing that inevitably occurs with a government-takeover of health care?

Canada? A recent government study said that only half of ER patients received health care in a timely fashion. Lindsay McCreith of Ontario was supposed to wait four months for an MRI, and then wait several months more to see a neurologist for his malignant brain tumor. But instead, McCreith – like many other ill Canadians – came to the United States for life-saving surgery.

England? The country's socialist Labor Party now favors privatization and expects, within two years, to triple the number of private-sector surgical procedures.

France? Nearly 13,000 people died in the summer of 2003. Why? The number suffering from the heat so overwhelmed the French health care system that hospitals simply stopped answering their phones and ambulance attendants told people to take care of themselves. The majority of the 13,000 died from simple dehydration.

To address the "crisis" of the medically uninsured, Moore follows down the same dreary path of those who wish to improve America's education – ignoring the benefits of competition. Why, for example, do elective medical procedures – those not covered by health care insurance – become increasingly affordable? Cosmetic surgery procedures, nose jobs, breast implants, hair grafts, facelifts and vision-corrective eye surgery steadily decline in price.

Stifling regulations, price controls and outright attacks on free-market medicine make things worse. A decade ago, an entrepreneur who operates a for-profit medical school in the Caribbean island of Dominica attempted to build one in America. He scouted the country and figured that Wyoming's doctor shortage created ideal conditions for a for-profit medical school. Compared to the national average of one doctor for every 441 people, Wyoming had only one doctor for every 642 people.

But local doctors pounded the table, warning that the medical school would produce unqualified doctors. Never mind that 92 percent of students graduating from his off-shore medical school passed their U.S. basic level tests on their first try, a slightly higher rate than the U.S. and Canadian average. Wyoming doctors and the national accrediting agency for medical schools successfully fought the proposed school.

If you consider our current health care system "Sicko," just wait until Dr. Moore takes charge.

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Dankdude · #2 07-14-2007, 06:11 PM

Really Vi if you did the Numbers it cost more under our current system that it would if we went to universal health care....
Watch the Damned Movie before you start putting up the status quo bullshit.
It is apparent that the Status quo isn't working. What is it about 46 million of your countrymen that are uninsured and can not afford insurance don't you understand?
Don't even say they can go to the Emergency Room, More and more people are getting turned away from ER's... The recent death of a woman who was lying in the floor of MLK/Drew Medical center proves this point. Not only that, but now county hospitals are Billing patients then full well know can not afford the services, so this increasingly screws up their credit even more.

Larry Elder? Huh I've listened to his show.... I'm not impressed. Claims to be a Libertarian and yet he's right down the line with Bush Co.
Nice Try Vi.

ViRedd · #3 07-14-2007, 06:58 PM

WTF? Did you read the article?

Vi

Dankdude · #4 07-14-2007, 07:37 PM

Yes Vi I did read the Article, What Elder fails to note that with Premium, and deductibles that the price goes up. Status Que isn't working Vi. Something has to be done, 46 Million Uninsured Americans is unexceptionable period, end of story.

mogie · #5 07-14-2007, 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dankdude

Yes Vi I did read the Article, What Elder fails to note that with Premium, and deductibles that the price goes up. Status Que isn't working Vi. Something has to be done, 46 Million Uninsured Americans is unexceptionable period, end of story.

You must be high because that last sentence.....lol

Dankdude · #6 07-14-2007, 09:24 PM

Yup you caught me.... I've been smoking MTF all day....

Token · #7 07-14-2007, 09:35 PM

Look at Denmark on Univasal health care It works great there why not here.

Dankdude · #8 07-14-2007, 09:44 PM

Yes Denmark is one of the better Models of Universal Health Care, so is the Netherlands.. The French Model is Great but it is terribly expensive, but at least they get something for their Tax Money.

Token · #9 07-14-2007, 09:46 PM

and Greenland, also Greenland is now the lowest producer of C02 b/c of geothermal energy.

medicineman · #10 07-15-2007, 01:07 AM

Universal health care now! It is not a priveledge to have medical care if you are sick, it is a right!

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