07/13/2007 @ 9:54 am
Filed by David Edwards and Muriel Kane

The Raw Story | O'Reilly takes on Tony Snow, 'You can't win' in Iraq

Fox News' Bill O'Reilly promised his audience "the truth about Iraq" on Thursday, saying that most Americans now feel the war has not been worth the costs, while "the president's argument for sustaining the war is largely theoretical."

O'Reilly turned on his special guest during the segment, White House press secretary Tony Snow, saying, "You can't win ... unless the Iraqi people turn on all the terrorists. And they're not."

O'Reilly said he agreed with the president that defeat in Iraq could harm the US but said that "enough is enough." The populist pundit who, according to his Wikipedia entry hasn't been a registered Republican since 2000, added that the American people are as exhausted by this war as they ultimately were by Vietnam, and also that "the Iraqi government is incompetent and "the people themselves largely ungrateful."

"The whole thing is tragic and depressing, complicated and dangerous," O'Reilly concluded. "After more than four years, Iraq remains a huge stone around America's neck."

O'Reilly then turned to former Fox anchor Snow, who argued that "Iraqi security forces ... are increasingly on the front lines" and that the Iraqi people have chosen the Iraqi government over al Qaeda and are saying "thank you" to the Americans.

As Snow continued to insist that the Iraqis will support the American troops if they seem them standing up to protect them, O'Reilly countered him with the analogy of Vietnam. "We don't have the hearts and minds there," said O'Reilly. "It's like South Vietnam. ... We had a lot of South Vietnamese helping us ... but there wasn't enough of them."

Snow then offered the argument that by remaining in Iraq, the president is fulfilling his responsibility to protect America. He said, "Everybody wishes al Qaeda didn't want to kill us, but they do," and backed that up with the assertion that "you saw that in Glasgow a couple of weeks ago." This was a reference to recent car bomb attacks that British reports have indicated were inspired by but not directly linked to al Qaeda.

Snow finally suggested that Americans are discouraged because, instead of stories about progress in Iraq, "people see scenes of dead American soldiers." However, the New York Times has reported that "A survey last year found that in a six-month period in which 559 Americans and Western allies died, almost no pictures were published of the American dead in the mainstream print media."

Hit the link at the top of this story to see the video.

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You can't put any stock into what O'Reilly says, Dank. He's a Right-Wing Nut-Job on Faux News, remember?

Vi

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I Understand that he's a right wing nut job, It surprises me that he actually didn't suck the Bush Admin's hemorrhoids on this one. Like he usually does.

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The privilege of the writ of habeas corpus shall not be suspended, unless when in cases of rebellion or invasion the public safety may require it. United State Constitution, Art. I Sec. 9 Par. 2

"Dissent is the Highest form of Patriotism" -- Howard Zinn

This is pretty amazing. Bill-O is turning on the Prez. He has generally been running lockstep with him since he was elected, Maybe there is hope. What amazes me is the fact that Tony Snow can go out day after Day and do Bushs' lying. You'd think a guy that has fought Cancer and has a chance of losing his life over it would have more of a sense of mortality and maybe want to tell the truth before he dies. I went off on snow before I knew he had cancer and apologised, but there is no waiver for lying daily for Bush.

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Karma has a way of catching up with people, and it will catch up to Tony Snow-job. His cancer is incurable, he will die a slow painful death unless he ends his life by his own hand.

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The privilege of the writ of habeas corpus shall not be suspended, unless when in cases of rebellion or invasion the public safety may require it. United State Constitution, Art. I Sec. 9 Par. 2

"Dissent is the Highest form of Patriotism" -- Howard Zinn

Dankdude, thanks for posting that article.
But I feel your attack on O'Reilly is unwarranted.
And what you said about Tony Snow was disgusting.
What a mean little man you must be.

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Dankdude

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Karma has a way of catching up with people, and it will catch up to Tony Snow-job. His cancer is incurable, he will die a slow painful death unless he ends his life by his own hand.

Dang Dankdude thats a rotten thing to say.

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Hey I'm entitled to my opinion how ever callous it may be.... It's no more callous than conservatives are toward the poor.

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The privilege of the writ of habeas corpus shall not be suspended, unless when in cases of rebellion or invasion the public safety may require it. United State Constitution, Art. I Sec. 9 Par. 2

"Dissent is the Highest form of Patriotism" -- Howard Zinn

Dankdude

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It's no more callous than conservatives are toward the poor.

Actually it is far more callous than Conservatives are toward the poor seeing that Conservatives give more of their own money to the poor and charities than liberals do.

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You need to direct that anger toward the Democrats who made pre election oaths to get us out of Iraq and also promised to impeach Bush Jr , you could join Cindy Sheehan in harassing Majority leader Pelosi to keep her pre -election promises instead of reveling in a cancer stricken white house speakers condition who has no political power.

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Yeah they give them charity in one hand while making legislation against them with the other.... You know sweetheart deal for drug companies?
Sure, make sure that it's cheap for Medicare patients while prices skyrocket for everyone else.
Lovely how the conservative charity works.
How about doing something so that 46 million of your fellow Americans are insured?

Feel Sorry for Tony Snowjob? Please, I'm sure that his treatment is paid for on the Tax payers dime.

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The privilege of the writ of habeas corpus shall not be suspended, unless when in cases of rebellion or invasion the public safety may require it. United State Constitution, Art. I Sec. 9 Par. 2

"Dissent is the Highest form of Patriotism" -- Howard Zinn