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Watch the Movie before you make any rash judgments on this one Vi.... This is the only flick that Moore has made that I did think he had much credibility on. When is the last time you have been to Europe to see how their system actually works...
It's funny how the United States is the richest Country on Earth and yet the Europeans have a higher standard of living that We do.
Well, if you remember Dank ... you guys on the old CW site said the same thing about Farenhiegt 911. So, I went to see the film and reported back to you guys.

Moore is nothing more than a propagandist for the Stalinist Party. His films stretch the truth, leave important facts out, speak out of context and are cut & paste jobs. Do I really need to watch a film where the producer claims that over 40 million Americans are "uninsured," as if that's the fault of the American health care system, but never mentions that 20 million of those folks, mostly the young and healthy, CAN afford medical coverage, but elect not to spend the money? Do I need to watch a film that claims other countries have "FREE" medical coverage, but never mentions the tax rates in those countries?

Come on guys ... Moore is a self promoting Hollywood millionaire who is getting rich off of America bashing by feeding into the hatred of the ultra left (The Stalinist Party). Simple as that.

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Well, if you remember Dank ... you guys on the old CW site said the same thing about Farenhiegt 911. So, I went to see the film and reported back to you guys.

Moore is nothing more than a propagandist for the Stalinist Party. His films stretch the truth, leave important facts out, speak out of context and are cut & paste jobs. Do I really need to watch a film where the producer claims that over 40 million Americans are "uninsured," as if that's the fault of the American health care system, but never mentions that 20 million of those folks, mostly the young and healthy, CAN afford medical coverage, but elect not to spend the money? Do I need to watch a film that claims other countries have "FREE" medical coverage, but never mentions the tax rates in those countries?

Come on guys ... Moore is a self promoting Hollywood millionaire who is getting rich off of America bashing by feeding into the hatred of the ultra left (The Stalinist Party). Simple as that.

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Man, you are whacked. Talk about hatred, you have it in spades.
Wow! I'm flabergasted that you haven't refuted my post with facts and have just resorted to a personal attack instead. NOT!

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Well, if you remember Dank ... you guys on the old CW site said the same thing about Farenhiegt 911. So, I went to see the film and reported back to you guys.

Moore is nothing more than a propagandist for the Stalinist Party. His films stretch the truth, leave important facts out, speak out of context and are cut & paste jobs. Do I really need to watch a film where the producer claims that over 40 million Americans are "uninsured," as if that's the fault of the American health care system, but never mentions that 20 million of those folks, mostly the young and healthy, CAN afford medical coverage, but elect not to spend the money? Do I need to watch a film that claims other countries have "FREE" medical coverage, but never mentions the tax rates in those countries?

Come on guys ... Moore is a self promoting Hollywood millionaire who is getting rich off of America bashing by feeding into the hatred of the ultra left (The Stalinist Party). Simple as that.

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It's rather Funny that you mention That Vi, I was Wrong about Fahrenheit 911, 90% of what Michael More said on that Movie turned out to be the Truth.
The Ultra left isn't Stalinist, Socialist, but not Stalinist. To be Stalinist would be to turn to total Communism.... There is a marked Difference between Socialism and Communism.
Socialism is a Economic system that fairly distributes goods and serviced, Communism is a Political system where the state owns everything and no one profits.
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OK, then let's call Moore & Co. fascists. In a fascist system, there is the illusion of private ownership ... with strict, dictatorial control by the state. Is that closer to the truth?

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Really? France doesn't operate like that and they are as socialist as they get. Same with Holland.
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Dank ...

I don't have to go to those countries to know what its like. I have friends who live in Mexico half the year. She fell down some stairs and suffered a compound fracture in her ankle. She was flown to hospital in Guadalhara (sp) and hooked up with a Mexican surgeon there. He offered to have her flown back to the states if she wanted, but assured her that he was educated in the U.S. and attained his M.D. there. She opted for him to do the surgery. The surgery, a one week stay in the hospital and all medications ... total cost: $7,500. And the ankle came out perfect. The catch? You have to live in that shit-hole called Mexico.

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Wow! I'm flabergasted that you haven't refuted my post with facts and have just resorted to a personal attack instead. NOT!

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