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So you cant read very good either.Its like talking to a 12 year old. Lets go slow so you can folow even though its very clearly put up several times.....Sadddam who was the leader of Iraq right? He was under attack and on the run right? He had no money and needed cash to flee..with me so far I know its hard..He had the nuclear heads and equiptment IRAN wanted and they had the cash he needed..had to be liquid assets so he could use it freely...He sold the stuff to Iran who hates the US just as much and they took cash they had and gave it to Saddam...Ok Im trying to go slow now..Saddam then had cash assets which ..keep up now..we caught him in possession with in the hole in the ground...see we stopped his money already but he did a thing called selling and got new cash for his nuclear technology....if you can not follow this then you need to get back in school. This was stated several time very clearly in this thread pl,ease read before commenting saves us time and saves you some face..
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So you cant read very good either.Its like talking to a 12 year old. Lets go slow so you can folow even though its very clearly put up several times.....Sadddam who was the leader of Iraq right? He was under attack and on the run right? He had no money and needed cash to flee..with me so far I know its hard..He had the nuclear heads and equiptment IRAN wanted and they had the cash he needed..had to be liquid assets so he could use it freely...He sold the stuff to Iran who hates the US just as much and they took cash they had and gave it to Saddam...Ok Im trying to go slow now..Saddam then had cash assets which ..keep up now..we caught him in possession with in the hole in the ground...see we stopped his money already but he did a thing called selling and got new cash for his nuclear technology....if you can not follow this then you need to get back in school. This was stated several time very clearly in this thread pl,ease read before commenting saves us time and saves you some face..

I would like to see your evidence that saddam sold nuke technology to Iran.
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You ll have to giuve me a bit of time to dig up links to all the footage and sattelite scans and the information. But in the mean time can you show me how Iran leap frogged advanced nations to a full nuclear program in less then 5 years and show me how saddam would have goteen the millions he was found with when all ways of his finacial assets were frozen and seized. just so we are fair and then if anyone who yells it was for the oil can show bit of evidence to support that opr show where that oil is at that we did this for but never used Id be happy to see that also.Ill go find some links many can be found on cnn and the bbc that will show the sattalite movement of trucks into Iran from Irag and then there should still be story links showing the finding of france and unicef illegal sales of long range missle parts and techonolgy to carry these and I will look for few stories on the nuclkear steam and radiation we found coming from nuclkear plants. Would that be sufficient to show where my statement came from. Other then Iran saying they bought the nukes thats what your gonna get but the greatest evidence is that a non nuclear blocked country has a full nuclear program in under 5 years which as we know is not possible from scratch dues to enrichment times.
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Y show me how saddam would have goteen the millions he was found with when all ways of his finacial assets were frozen and seized. j.
Saddam had vaults full of american cash, The cash he had on him when he was on the run is nothing compared to the cash he had access too. The money he had on him. He didn't need to sell anything for his escape money there was plenty of greenbacks available
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But you realise he did not have time or the ability to take that cash with him right? You aslo remember that all of his vaults were seized right away as first target to prevent him from getting it and hundreds of millions of his private moeny was seiezed along with the countries lines of finacing that were frozen and all web access jammed so no chance to wire funds? So he elft with what he had and what he could get together on the run. I will also post once I have it again a link where it was shown the serial numbers on alot of the money was able to be traced back to origins within Iran as it was used to buy good from Iran by other countries and large bundles of cash for international usage are logged and the serial kept on record for these type of situations. Those bills if the make it back into US circulation would be flagged at banks returned to the government and burned and replaced or if needed held for evidence then burned but would not go back into circulation as they are serialed and flagged as international used USD currency. This applies to large sums no like 50 grand
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You ll have to giuve me a bit of time to dig up links to all the footage and sattelite scans and the information. But in the mean time can you show me how Iran leap frogged advanced nations to a full nuclear program in less then 5 years and show me how saddam would have goteen the millions he was found with when all ways of his finacial assets were frozen and seized. just so we are fair and then if anyone who yells it was for the oil can show bit of evidence to support that opr show where that oil is at that we did this for but never used Id be happy to see that also.Ill go find some links many can be found on cnn and the bbc that will show the sattalite movement of trucks into Iran from Irag and then there should still be story links showing the finding of france and unicef illegal sales of long range missle parts and techonolgy to carry these and I will look for few stories on the nuclkear steam and radiation we found coming from nuclkear plants. Would that be sufficient to show where my statement came from. Other then Iran saying they bought the nukes thats what your gonna get but the greatest evidence is that a non nuclear blocked country has a full nuclear program in under 5 years which as we know is not possible from scratch dues to enrichment times.
OK, dude, I have one question for you then, if you really believe all this stuff you're saying...

Why don't we give a fuck about Darfur? Hundreds of thousands of people have been killed, millions displaced... why don't we have hundreds of thousands of troops on the ground there? Why aren't we doing anything other than sending small portions of aid and miniscule amounts of cash to the area to help the millions of people the conflict is affecting?

I bring that up because earlier you stated that one of Bush's reasons for the invasion of Iraq was because he killed hundreds of thousands of Kurds, something I don't disagree with, the thing I disagree with is how you go from one guy killing a ton of people and the US stepping in and saying it's wrong, but then when some other guy does the exact same shit, even worse, the US does almost nothing and there's not a peep out of you...

See how that works, all the people who are saying the Iraqi invasion was justified don't seem to look at the bigger picture, there are bad guys who kill thousands of people all the time all over the world, guess what, some of those guys are leaders of countries we're allied with, howbout Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, China, dozens of African nations, I could go on and on man... That's not what matters. So you can go on and on about using that reason to justify your illegal war if you want, but that shit doesn't fly with me, the reason just turned into an excuse for the last embarrassing administration to use, and that's all it ever was, an excuse. If you're going to invade and 'liberate' a nation based on the actions of it's leaders, you're ass is going to have a lot of invading to do. Even if that reason was real and they were actually telling the truth about it instead of just using it to make simple minded people believe we're the good guys and they're the bad guys, it still wouldn't be justified, because... really, who the fuck are we to tell anyone else how to live? Likewise, who the fuck is the US government to tell me how to live... Enough of this policing everyone bullshit.

So, there ya go man, answer me that, why do you care so much about the poor ol' Kurds, but when it comes to any starving or oppressed African or Asian out there... nothin. Where's the invasion for them? Where's their liberation?
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But you realise he did not have time or the ability to take that cash with him right?
He had all the ability and plenty of time to take cash with him. He probaly had that cash under his bed man. Every palace we took over the troops found suitcases and suit cases full of cash, diamond incrusted Ak-47s. Alot of the money was distributed to the bathist for the future insurgency operations.

The troops find 600million behind a false wall in some neigborhood April 23 2003 http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/worl...4/203339/print
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OK, dude, I have one question for you then, if you really believe all this stuff you're saying...

Why don't we give a fuck about Darfur? Hundreds of thousands of people have been killed, millions displaced... why don't we have hundreds of thousands of troops on the ground there? Why aren't we doing anything other than sending small portions of aid and miniscule amounts of cash to the area to help the millions of people the conflict is affecting?

I bring that up because earlier you stated that one of Bush's reasons for the invasion of Iraq was because he killed hundreds of thousands of Kurds, something I don't disagree with, the thing I disagree with is how you go from one guy killing a ton of people and the US stepping in and saying it's wrong, but then when some other guy does the exact same shit, even worse, the US does almost nothing and there's not a peep out of you...

See how that works, all the people who are saying the Iraqi invasion was justified don't seem to look at the bigger picture, there are bad guys who kill thousands of people all the time all over the world, guess what, some of those guys are leaders of countries we're allied with, howbout Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, China, dozens of African nations, I could go on and on man... That's not what matters. So you can go on and on about using that reason to justify your illegal war if you want, but that shit doesn't fly with me, the reason just turned into an excuse for the last embarrassing administration to use, and that's all it ever was, an excuse. If you're going to invade and 'liberate' a nation based on the actions of it's leaders, you're ass is going to have a lot of invading to do. Even if that reason was real and they were actually telling the truth about it instead of just using it to make simple minded people believe we're the good guys and they're the bad guys, it still wouldn't be justified, because... really, who the fuck are we to tell anyone else how to live? Likewise, who the fuck is the US government to tell me how to live... Enough of this policing everyone bullshit.

So, there ya go man, answer me that, why do you care so much about the poor ol' Kurds, but when it comes to any starving or oppressed African or Asian out there... nothin. Where's the invasion for them? Where's their liberation?
Because Darfur does not have any oil, and it wouldn't give us military bases in the middle east? Nah, that can't be it.
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