Anyone who tries to fall back on saying we went in to Iraq for oil is just clueless to reality. As stated we do not get the Iraqi oil we get it from the above named sources and the oil we do get we can not refine fast enough since Clinton thought a great way to save money would be to demolish 8 of our refineries instead of temp closing or refurbing them. It amazes me how un aware of reality some people are with thier hatred towards conflcit that they would let that block all actual facts with this fantasy that we would go into a place like Iraq for oil when there are way simplier less costly ways to get oils then to ever even consider that. Jesues the pres gave 3 exact reasons he wanted to go in proved 2 in the matter of a month and found enough evidence to show reason 3 was a valid concerns yet the blind sayy nooo its for oil come on now little reality and thought process people.

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exactly what I'm saying...we fought his war for the big oil companies and what did we get from it...death and debt...what were the 3 reasons the pres gave?

You make statements like you do an do not even know the 3 stated reason before the envasion was even made? That speech was on every channel before and after the ernvasion. You really have to stop as you clearly have no knowledge of this topic. Go back a few pages and read my long history post which went into depth on this but I will do a quick posting of those 3 reason again and for backing and more facts on those please go back a few pages and read the thread post.
Reason stated
1. Saddam was funding and allowing safe haven for terrorist groups which was a violation of the original Desert war treaty (not to mention breaking the embargo with illeagl trade with France via Unicef).

2 Saddam was practiceing genocidial techniques through mass murder of the Kurds in a cleansing process he wanted as he felt them as unpure and against his nation.( oops found the mass graves of over 275000 murder kurds) remember hitler and ww2?
3 Intelligence shows reason to belive saddam had manufactured nuclear and biological long range war heads..A violation of the desert storm and United Nations emposed sanctions.(refinerys were found to have radioactive traces,reciepts for the nmissiles parts from france via unbicef were found in Iraq, Saddam was found with large US currency while truck movement just before were seen and shown going into Iran who now grew some balls why maybe some new toys? )

Found the genocidal graves,found his terrorist allowed strong holds and found a good amount of evidence to support the nuclear long range weapons with evidence showing he sold to Iran for money to flee with since he knew he was done in Iraq..

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I love it where Tips doesn't even bother to read the posts he responds to...

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You haven't countered nothing, because the points you made are not valid, you are basing your counter on information you don't understand, regardless the accuracy of the information, because it does not state what you are saying.. (Brazko)

I mean Im not looking to fight on it but geezus its common knowledge that some that like to yell oil oil oil do not even bother to acknowledge.It scares me to think those like that have access to pointy objects. Its so funny how Iran a non Nuclear developing country all of the sudden has a nuclear division 5 years after the Iraq war..hmmm disovered how to make uranium , refine it, build a power plant, and a war division in less then any highly advanced technological unhindered country in history...its like someone handed them the stuff and blueprints...oh wait Iraq did.

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the US was apparently harboring terrorist also...remember 9/11?
the kurds were trying overthrow the government...what would happen in the US if a large group of people were trying to overthrow the government...?
no wmds were ever found....how does work? hey iran..."I know were mortal enemies....but....could you watch my wmds while those pesky americans are invading my country"?
I think your full of shit....

that's why I always read yours, there always short and to the point........

Yeah thats it so in your mind the US allowed terrorist training camps and gave them money for thier weapons right here in the US..You have to be joking or retarded to say that....How does that work hey iran..well both mortal US enemies.Both Opportunist..Iran wanted nuclear technology saddahm had it and needed cash since his flow was blocked and siezed by the coalition. so one muslim US hater to another US enemy wanting the nukes. I am done here and want the US destroyed I will sell you oiur nuclears for money.. pretty simple...Next you ll try to tell me pportunist nations who are blocked and emabrgoed don't do whatever comes up to gain what they want and need right..Iran would be like noo we can not buy your nuclear program secrtes for pennies on the dollar to help get power to use against oiur most hated enemy the US. What your introuble and just need cash and will ship them right over the border..noo thats wrong of us cause we are not friends...Come on seriously your gonna say that with a straight face and then try to drive a car???NO wmds found? we found reactive materials, we found recipts fro long range missle parts to carry the war heads. we found bank transactions for nuclear power plant parts from France....So in your mind Clinton and the US gave terroist funding in the US and allowed terroristic training camps to be openly be held on US soil...Opportunist countries who hate the US more then each other and share the common Muslim middle east bond wont do whatever to survive or get around ermbargos and the kurds who have litttle to no power or major threatening ability mind you most were women children and old men need to be rounded up gased with expiremental biologial and chemical agents by Chemical Ali in order to stop there dislike for saddam a world leader with a great military force who ran the country...come on now who is full of shit..no one with any mental capacity is gonna believe that crock your pushing

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And if you follow up with Obama is doing a good job I will just have to write you off as retarded

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Saddam was found with large US currency.....
nuclear technology saddahm had it and needed cash since his flow was blocked and siezed by the coalition....
which was it? saddam had money or saddam didn't have money....?