Probably more than you, seeing as how it's clear that unlike you I don't require that my friends by mindless sycophants that hang on to every infantile thought that I have, or expect them to agree with me 100%, or to not express opinions contrary to my own.

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you have infantile thoughts?

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I don't know, I don't remember what kind of thoughts I had as an infant, though I'd hazard a guess that as they are nothing like the typical Statists apparent thought patterns that I don't have infantile thoughts.

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I'm still waiting on his ORIGINAL birth certificate.... He is hiding his citizenship of being Indonesian. he is hiding his college admission records which show him enrolling as a FOREIGN student.


The issue about Obama's mother being in Kenya or in Hawaii at the time of birth is tangential to the problems. Read the lawsuits and you will see that the issue is far different than the simplistic spin is. It has to do with the fact that his father was a British Citizen and his mother was too young to confer US citizenship on Obama at the time of his birth and under the laws at the time. Also, Obama may well have been a citizen of Indonesia by adoption of his Indonesian stepfather. He was signed up in his school in Indonesia as citizenship = Indonesian. Many are questioning whether his records at Occidental, Columbia, and Harvard indicated that he registered as a foreign student....an admission that he is not a natural born American citizen. There may be other reasons for hiding his school records and birth certificate, but it strains credulity when he pays a million or so dollars in lawyer's fees to hide his records. Oh, wait, he isn't paying it personally, his campaign fund is paying it...I wonder what his campaign donors think of that?

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You haven't countered nothing, because the points you made are not valid, you are basing your counter on information you don't understand, regardless the accuracy of the information, because it does not state what you are saying.. (Brazko)

You really have lost all sense of reality. Get over it Obama won the election.

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jax, you need to move to a more fruitful arguement...I showed you obamas birth certificate and it's from hawaii...

There's a reason why it is still being sought in court Tips...despite the "reissue" copy. Everyone knows about it but it is not enough. It is not legal.

Why is Obama defending the original? WHY??? Why is he hiding his admission college records...WHY???? He has spent over a million bucks putting roadblocks up for anyone to see them...WHY???

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You haven't countered nothing, because the points you made are not valid, you are basing your counter on information you don't understand, regardless the accuracy of the information, because it does not state what you are saying.. (Brazko)

I call bullshit...your making that shit up...spent a million dollrs my ass...you are so full of SHIT....he is the president and will be the president for eight more years......get over it..........

Actually Jax is right. Obama has never produced a legitimate paper form of his birth certificate. He has only produced a digital image of his supposed Certificate of Live Birth (which has been identified as being un-authentic by many analysts).

If Obama has nothing to hide why doesn't he just produce an original birth certificate? It would end the debate immediately.

I have a feeling that the majority if us don't give a fuck.........