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Old 07-07-2007, 10:01 PM
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Olbermann: Bush, Cheney should resign
Come-on people, wake the hell up!!!!

I accuse you, Mr. Bush, of lying this country into war.
I accuse you of fabricating in the minds of your own people, a false implied link between Saddam Hussein and 9/11.

I accuse you of firing the generals who told you that the plans for Iraq were disastrously insufficient.

I accuse you of causing in Iraq the needless deaths of 3,586 of our brothers and sons, and sisters and daughters, and friends and neighbors.

I accuse you of subverting the Constitution, not in some misguided but sincerely-motivated struggle to combat terrorists, but to stifle dissent.

I accuse you of fomenting fear among your own people, of creating the very terror you claim to have fought.

I accuse you of exploiting that unreasoning fear, the natural fear of your own people who just want to live their lives in peace, as a political tool to slander your critics and libel your opponents.

I accuse you of handing part of this Republic over to a Vice President who is without conscience, and letting him run roughshod over it.

And I accuse you now, Mr. Bush, of giving, through that Vice President, carte blanche to Mr. Libby, to help defame Ambassador Joseph Wilson by any means necessary, to lie to Grand Juries and Special Counsel and before a court, in order to protect the mechanisms and particulars of that defamation, with your guarantee that Libby would never see prison, and, in so doing, as Ambassador Wilson himself phrased it here last night, of becoming an accessory to the obstruction of justice.

“I didn’t vote for him,” an American once said, “But he’s my president, and I hope he does a good job.”

That—on this eve of the 4th of July—is the essence of this democracy, in 17 words. And that is what President Bush threw away yesterday in commuting the sentence of Lewis “Scooter” Libby\

The man who said those 17 words—improbably enough—was the actor John Wayne. And Wayne, an ultra-conservative, said them, when he learned of the hair’s-breadth election of John F. Kennedy instead of his personal favorite, Richard Nixon in 1960.

“I didn’t vote for him but he’s my president, and I hope he does a good job.”

The sentiment was doubtlessly expressed earlier, but there is something especially appropriate about hearing it, now, in Wayne’s voice: The crisp matter-of-fact acknowledgement that we have survived, even though for nearly two centuries now, our Commander-in-Chief has also served, simultaneously, as the head of one political party and often the scourge of all others.

We as citizens must, at some point, ignore a president’s partisanship. Not that we may prosper as a nation, not that we may achieve, not that we may lead the world—but merely that we may function.

But just as essential to the seventeen words of John Wayne, is an implicit trust—a sacred trust: That the president for whom so many did not vote, can in turn suspend his political self long enough, and for matters imperative enough, to conduct himself solely for the benefit of the entire Republic.

Our generation’s willingness to state “we didn’t vote for him, but he’s our president, and we hope he does a good job,” was tested in the crucible of history, and earlier than most.

And in circumstances more tragic and threatening. And we did that with which history tasked us.

We enveloped our President in 2001.And those who did not believe he should have been elected—indeed those who did not believe he had been elected—willingly lowered their voices and assented to the sacred oath of non-partisanship.

And George W. Bush took our assent, and re-configured it, and honed it, and shaped it to a razor-sharp point and stabbed this nation in the back with it.

Were there any remaining lingering doubt otherwise, or any remaining lingering hope, it ended yesterday when Mr. Bush commuted the prison sentence of one of his own staffers.
Olbermann: Bush, Cheney should resign - Countdown with Keith Olbermann - MSNBC.com
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Old 07-07-2007, 10:35 PM
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Arrow I thought sure .... I posted this ...
...... but I guess it was a different board .... anyway ....

.... here it is ...




Keith Olbermann's Special Commet: You ceased to be the President of the United States
Keith Olbermann delivers arguably his most pointed and most powerful Special Comment yet on the ramifications of Bush’s commutation of Libby’s sentence .......
"In that moment, Mr. Bush, you broke that fundamental compact between yourself and the majority of this nation’s citizens — the ones who did not cast votes for you.
In that moment, Mr. Bush, you ceased to be the President of the United States.
In that moment, Mr. Bush, you became merely the President… of a rabid and irresponsible corner of the Republican Party."

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Good post, Med. Olbermann is always good for a chuckel or two.

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Good post, Med. Olbermann is always good for a chuckel or two.

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It's funny how the truth brings out the worst in you VI. I'm amazed how narrow your view of the world really is. My My, it must be nice to be you,~LOL~. How much time do you spend counting your money every day,~LOL~, I'm a millionaire also, I just don't act like one, I made my money the old fasioned way, investing in the Forex. Outside of my other investments, I keep a cool million in my safe at home, and you're the first to know.
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Old 07-09-2007, 09:25 AM
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Nothing hypercritical at all about Keith Olbermann's statements there, Med. Hell, I clearly remember Olbermann going ballistic over Clinton's pardon of 140 of his cronies, including fugitives from justice like Marc Rich. You clearly remember it too, don't cha?

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Hey Med, Vi, how do I become a millionare?
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Old 07-10-2007, 09:39 AM
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Hey Med, Vi, how do I become a millionare?
Buy real estate, rent it out and never sell it. Borrow against the equities and buy more real estate, rent them out ... and never sell those either. In the meantime, stay out of credit card debt, work your ass off and buy more real estate.

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Old 07-10-2007, 09:46 AM
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Wow, just the plan I had in mind, however, you need to be well to do from the begin with to make it work fairly quickly, I am working on it but its hard going...
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Quality wealth is very seldom built "very quickly." It takes years of sacrifice and delayed self gratification. Wealth builders are goal setters. Set some montly goals for savings. Set yearly goals ... set a five year plan, a ten year plan and a twenty year plan. Then review your progress on a monthly basis. Also, its important to maintain a positive mental attitude. Also very important ... help as many people as you can to get what THEY want ... and you will eventually get what you want as well.

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Old 07-10-2007, 12:42 PM
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Yeah, hard work is allright, but, being in the right place at the right time is better, If you were in California real estate in the 60s-70s and invested every dollar you made in real estate, you'd now be well into the status of millionaire. I personally benefited from this phenomenom. Right place at the right time with a little cash, start saving now. there are foreclosures coming on the market like a flood starting right about now, those overzealous financiers have bankrupted millions with their fluctuating interest loans, Buy a decent foreclosure and fix it up, live in it untill you can sell it for a profit, then move up to a bigger house, etc. In twenty years you'll be well off. This is all dependent on the housing market appreciating as usual. If you buy at the peak and a slump comes along such as now, well you are screwed, but now the market is leveling out, so you should see some appreciation starting as soon as all these foreclosures are straightened out. they are trying some new strategies with the forclosures. The lender takes the price hit (say a 350,000 house is now worth 275,000, the lender sells it for 275,000 and the present owner gets out without a forclosure against his credit record), but still loses everything he put in it, basically they both get screwed, but the new buyer may get a bargain
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