With recent findings that the U.S. is responsible for some 90% of Mexico's gun trade; and Mexico sustained some 5,300 deaths in 2008 relative to the gun and marijuanna trade between the two:

Do you think that marijuanna users can be more accountible in civilizing the marijuanna market and/or countering the essentially "A" violence of the overall trade.


I am talking about being more accountible to self govern ourselves within the "Spirit of the Constitution" and the "Natural Law" and / or "Freedom of Religion", in general and particularly with the process of the marijuanna users self conduct and/or discipline?

Buck um

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What are you talking about. All of this is a responce to the Government ignoring the Constitution and Natural law. It took a constitutional amendment to ban alcohol why not pot?? The Pot user is fully within his rights under Natural Law to consume a plant, period. All this violence is a responce to the governments prohabition.

The market is like a force of nature. It will work one way or the other. You can't stop it. As long as the market (for a product) exsists it will be satisfied. The Mexicans know this and will gladly make a buck. The only way to stop the insanity is legalization and regulation just like with Alcohol. Until the jackboots accept that the war goes on.

As far as the Guns go, they wouldn't be a problem if the Government simply allow Natural Law to work. All of the violence is due to the drug trade. Violence is a direct result of a lack of legal recourse. The Drug cartels (companies) can not sue when they have a contract dispute. So they do the next best thing.

Don't think with your heart, use your head. I know violence is bad and we all feel bad about it. But use your reason not your emotions. Your emotions are used as tools by statists. They pull your heart strings and get you to ban guns because of pot heads. Think about it.

i just read yesterday that the 90% u speak of is incorrect. its actually 14%. ill try to find my source to back me up.

and ilkhan.. u are exactly right.

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before guns, swords, before that stones...
people kill people.
I believe the very first act of man was violence, not love or compassion.

If not from us, they would simply buy guns that are produced in other countries.
hey, at lest we still have one standout american industry left.

anybody who knows even very little of the mexican gov't history, knows why mexico is in the position they find themselfs in today.

if anything couldn't the american people point the finger at mexico for alot of our problems?

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hahaha 100% voted NO so far.
I guess were all saying....FUCK MEXICO!!!
I wonder how many people would support a war against mexico?

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before guns, swords, before that stones...
people kill people.
I believe the very first act of man was violence, not love or compassion

Yes, violence does in fact solve everything. However, People do not want to risk their lives everytime they have a dispute with someone. So People institute Governments to arbitrate disputes. By "outlawing" Drugs the governments of the world have abdicated their power to criminals and thugs. Criminals and thugs do not take your ass to court they just shoot you.

"The problem has been arbitrated."

Do you think that marijuanna users can be more accountible in civilizing the marijuanna market and/or countering the essentially "A" violence of the overall trade.

Do you think pepsi drinkers can be held accoutable for the levels of corn syrup in their soft drinks?
Can people who wear jeans be held accountable for the treatment of textile workers in indoniesia?

Ya know, I dunno of anyone who buys mexican pot anymore. That stuff is as half assed as Mexico is. Grow your own people, lets get this shit legalized for the general population. Think about it, why does mexico import pot. Because we will buy it from them even tho it sucks. If you take pot out of the market, they have just lost a major cash cow. Sure they are going to smuggle more coke now, BUT, supply and demand my friend. The harded the drug the narrower the market. If were growing here in America, and turn it into a trillion dollar a year industry, no one would buy mexican weed. It would really hurt their economy even more and perhaps their leaders will rethink what they want to do in the world, be run by millitant cartels that muder in the streets? Or reform their shithole to actually contribute something to the human race. Don't mistake me as racist. This is and education and corruption issue. Not a racial issue.

The 90% figure is nothing but propaganda coming from inside the Obama administration. Watch for another gun grabbing contest between the so-called "progressives" now that they have the White House and the Congress.

Man, I really dislike the gun-grabbing fascists and all they represent.

Vi

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