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Old 07-07-2007, 12:22 PM
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What do you guys think of two presidents a domestic one and another to handle our foreign relations? I was asked this by one of my co-workers and it souns like a good idea to me. It's not that realistic that our foreign policy changes every 4 to 8 years.
well to be fair it's not realistic for our domestic policy to change every 4-8 years either. The problem is where does trade land? is it a foreign issue or because it effects business in the US directly is it a domestic issue? there would be too many disputes between the two presidents.

As far as campaign funds go if we disallow corporate donations and PACs and only allow individual donations then i think we'd be better off.
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Old 07-07-2007, 12:29 PM
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well to be fair it's not realistic for our domestic policy to change every 4-8 years either. The problem is where does trade land? is it a foreign issue or because it effects business in the US directly is it a domestic issue? there would be too many disputes between the two presidents.

As far as campaign funds go if we disallow corporate donations and PACs and only allow individual donations then i think we'd be better off.
I agree with you the system would have to be really thought out to be implemented. And I agree with the no corporation contributions, but you know they would exploit loopholes. i.e. Instead of oil companies donating money the individuals that run the company could make contributions and still get their way.
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Old 07-07-2007, 12:38 PM
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true but any system in place will have loopholes. i just can't think of one with less of them.
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true but any system in place will have loopholes. i just can't think of one with less of them.
Public funding with no private money allowed, period. Have a program like American Idol where the people vote for the ten most poplular candidates, five from each party, out of a field of hundreds, where they all get 10 minutes to tell their agenda, then fund their election campaigns from tax receipts, no corporate donars, no billionaire donors, or, limit private contributions to 20 bucks each with verified donors. I'm sure we could figure out a way to eliminate the greed and coruption from our political system if we really tried. Then eleminate all lobbiest from the hallowed halls of congress. Make the system work like it was designed, of the people, for the people, by the people.
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I thought u people were for free speech?
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I thought u people were for free speech?
Where does it say anything about free speech?
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no corporate donars, no billionaire donors, or, limit private contributions to 20 bucks each with verified donors. I\'m sure we could figure out a way to eliminate the greed............................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .......When you make a contribution to a particular candidate, this is your money or your company\'s money going to advance your guy. When you limit this, it is in essence limiting free speech. You side seems to be appalled when this happens any other time.
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donations aren't considered speech so inhibiting donations isn't inhibiting speech. it's been pointed out that companies can make donations. PACs can make donations. Both of which aren't people and freedom of speech doesn't apply. they also can't vote but yet they seem to be able to pick who our options of voting are.
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no corporate donars, no billionaire donors, or, limit private contributions to 20 bucks each with verified donors. I\'m sure we could figure out a way to eliminate the greed............................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .......When you make a contribution to a particular candidate, this is your money or your company\'s money going to advance your guy. When you limit this, it is in essence limiting free speech. You side seems to be appalled when this happens any other time.
Maybe you're just nuts, I can't really see your reasoning, so I must assume you're unreasonable, or nutzo.
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Maybe you're just nuts, I can't really see your reasoning, so I must assume you're unreasonable, or nutzo.
Are you really George Bush, c'mon you can tell us..lol.
 

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