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Old 07-06-2007, 10:07 PM
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I'm not liberal, I'm pretty much in the middle.
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Old 07-06-2007, 10:08 PM
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that election was a prime example of why we should do away with the electoral college. Whether bush won florida legitimately or not(i don't think he did), you still can't deny the fact that gore won the popular vote.
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electoral college gave it to bush both times. You may vote one way, but the college can still vote ether way like they did in 2004.
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They just cannot accept that they lost in Florida. Hey LIBS you lost in Florida, give it up. Losers! No matter how much you bitch you still lost in Florida.
Ya uh it's just amazing how Florida was run by bush'es brother- or the fact that the woman in charge of counting the votes and deciding which votes were counted and which were ignored was a crony of Bush...come on...and if that wasn't bad enough it was judges who were appointed by Bush Senior( who owed him favors for getting their jobs) that amazingly " appointed " bush jr. leader of the free world...

That " election " was complete fraud. We need to remove the electoral college system, and more importantly we need to socialize campaigning. These days you can't even hope to win the presidency unless you raise billions of dollars- that right there will keep anyone most honest ppl out of the running. We need to end campaign contributions by lobbyists and just give all candidates equal airtime on a government channel. Give all candidates an equal budget provided by the taxpayers.A very modest budget.

Campaign reform-That would be a good start in getting this country back on it's feet.
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well i'm not sure if we should socialize the campaigns but i definitely don't like the two party system we have in place. of all the barriers in place that is the largest.
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Old 07-07-2007, 11:54 AM
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by " socialize " I mean keep the playing field level for all candidates. There are many ways you could achieve this- as long is the end result is that money is not a factor in who wins, and keeping the lobbyists out of it it will be a winner.
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Yeah, the two party system is a huge problem. Too much infighting, and come on why does it always come down to 2 guys in the end, which doesn't leave you with too many options in the end. And then it becomes a vote for the lesser of 2 evils. One of the reasons I registered republican is so I could vote in the primarys, if you register indepent you can't. I also believe they need to reform the way campaigns get money. Lobbying is bad, basically this is a country run by corporations and not the people. Too bad a major hydroponics company hasn't been established in the US..lol. The electoral college is obsolete, the two party system is obsolete, true democracy is obsolete, the two party system is counter productive...blah blah blah. Unfortunately the next president will be spending their first four fixing the current mess. What do you guys think of two presidents a domestic one and another to handle our foreign relations? I was asked this by one of my co-workers and it souns like a good idea to me. It's not that realistic that our foreign policy changes every 4 to 8 years.
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Many ppl make the mistake of thinking the U.S. is a democracy.We are NOT a democracy we are a REPUBLIC.
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As of late I feel that we are becoming an Imperialistic Republic. We should be known as the United Corprations Of America.
 

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