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Old 02-24-2009, 06:19 PM
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Default Welfare, what to do?
Can the welfare system be created/changed to avoid being abused by people who don't want a better life for themselves and are satisfied to see children as a happy, "money making" accidents?

Maybe there will just always be homeless/poor people who don't want to work.
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yep.we call them liberals.if they cant get a meaningless job they steal from the tax payer to make their living
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Can the welfare system be created/changed to avoid being abused by people who don't want a better life for themselves and are satisfied to see children as a happy, "money making" accidents?

Maybe there will just always be homeless/poor people who don't want to work.
The double conundrum; to make welfare not welfare?

A huge % of homeless have either mental or drug related issues. A job isn't a cure-all.

The real issue here is a football isn't round like a ball!!
A soccer ball is circular and a football is a prolate spheroid, and not gay!!
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A job is especially not a cure-all of it's not a living wage.........

A person with a minimum wage job can't get any medical help. A person with no job gets full medical.......
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A job is especially not a cure-all of it's not a living wage.........

A person with a minimum wage job can't get any medical help. A person with no job gets full medical.......
Symptom of a government that thinks it knows better than individuals what is good for individuals.

Symptoms of a government that has failed to maintain the value of its currency due to the desires of special interest groups (Bankers, Giant Corporations, Nanny-Staters.)

All these things can easily be fixed by reducing the cost of government.

What I fail to ever find the logic behind is just how Obama intends on making healthcare more affordable when his stated goals are to make it more expensive by taxing doctors more.

The more you take from the doctors the more they have to charge to maintain their previous cost of living. Thus, medical care inflation.

Common Knowledge, when you tax something, prices go up on that something. Like cigarettes, by the logic of the Democrats the following makes sense.

"Cigarettes should cost $0 after the taxes on them."
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Health care should have a more fair pricing structure. They invent the prices based on which insurance you have. That is why people can't afford it.

They should have to set a price for a service and stick with that price no matter what your insurance is.

It doesn't do any good to have insurance if the hospital charges 4 times as much because of the insurance you have.
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Welfare should be just for those who are crippled or maimed or UNABLE to work..

If you can type online you can do data entry
If you can walk you can work


People are lazy and DONT wanna work. Its simple . Some people would just rather work the system ..

They should be put into the Army or forced to work for the handout ...
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I agree about that, but instead of rewarding people who sit on their ass, there should be more access to services to people who have jobs but can't make ends meet. People really shouldn't have to choose between medical and food or whatever.

We have those multi-generation welfare familes around here. They breed and breed and never get jobs. They're always really fat too, that's something I've noticed.
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I see people who have section 8 housing ( state picks up 3/4 of your rent) driving around in Escalades and Lexus trucks , sporting $500 sunglass's and $300 sneakers and using the states welfare card to buy food in the store .. It makes me sick
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It's because they get fat tax refunds, they get all that earned income credit for having all those kids. I know, how are they going to get a tax refund if they don't pay taxes? I don't get it either.
 

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