An excellent speech on our monetary system ... and the scam that it is. - Page 3

medicineman · #21 06-16-2007, 06:00 PM

PROMOTE the general welfare.
Sort of sums up my arguement!

ViRedd · #22 06-17-2007, 02:56 PM

And you don't see the difference between "provide" and "promote?"

Vi

medicineman · #23 06-18-2007, 10:43 AM

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And you don't see the difference between "provide" and "promote?"

Vi

Provide: to take measures before hand; to supply what is needed.......................Promote; to contribute to the growth or prosperity of; launch. Don't you see the "contribute to the growth and prosperity of", as a way for the government to help the less fortunate or in your mind is that just to help the corporations? Launching new programs intended to help the less fortunate, is that not the intention of welfare. "Promote the welfare". This concept has been eroded by greedy assholes and allowed to die on the vine. You and your greedy friends want to keep all your "hard earned Money", like 3% of 3,000,000 or 90,000 for a days work is justified. It's like legal robbery.

VirginHarvester · #24 06-18-2007, 11:25 AM

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Well, you've made a lot of good points. I completely agree that the elites have taken over the executive and legislative branches of the federal government. That's why the recent defeat of the amnesty bill was so important. The sane people in the legislative branch listened to the people for a change. There is a new media threatening the elites ... its called conservative talk radio. Millions of listeners phoned their reps and demanded that the amnesty bill be defeated. Interestingly enough, we aren't hearing a peep from the mainstream media about how talk radio had a hand in this defeat. Wonder what they're trying to cover up? *lol*

By the way ... on the money issue, the federal income tax is all part of the hoax/scheme.

Vi

I don't believe many of us realize how many "elites" in our government from both sides want us to be dependent on them. They are all very bad.

What does it tell you when a guy like Kennedy is pushing this immigration deal by the way? Wow, we are so screwed right now.

closet.cult · #25 06-21-2007, 10:39 AM

very good speach. a bit depressing. because argue your good points as you may, the general population will not bother to read and understand our power and therefor hand them over to the lawyers and politions.

that point is what got to me the most. we are so far from the ideals of the founding fathers. so what? do we revolt against the government? to what end? death or imprisonment.

any man who may be great today, will be subdued tomorrow thru some form of control. american is doomed because of it's government's greed. and the people take no note.

7xstall · #26 06-21-2007, 11:32 AM

closet.cult, force yourself to abandon the cynicism and lack of enthusiasm for the very real prospect of a better day. they want us to tire, they want us to stop trying and they want the masses to keep their eyes closed. they label anyone who confronts them as crazy, fringe, extreme, but if we remain solid and if we hold our ground the possibility for change still exists; whether by bloody conflict or the stroke of a thousand pens.

everyone who understands the truth is immediately indebted to those who do not know it yet and we have the duty to make order out of chaos ourselves.

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medicineman · #27 06-21-2007, 02:52 PM

everyone who understands the truth is immediately indebted to those who do not know it yet and we have the duty to make order out of chaos ourselves.
Well said. The only problem is one mans truth is another mans folly. I could tell you all day long what I believe to be true, and you would probably call bullshit, and visa-versa. If only Jesus would bring the bacon.

closet.cult · #28 06-21-2007, 03:12 PM

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closet.cult, force yourself to abandon the cynicism and lack of enthusiasm for the very real prospect of a better day.

yes, i am generally a very optomistic person. but the very systems in place; judicial and political, have been tainted and are suspect in my opinion. the very freedoms described by those who framed the constitution have been given away.

i am not optimistic that a reversal of certain unjust laws will take place. are you? to the contrary, we are heading toward more and more laws which will limit our freedom; and it's all for our own good, isn't it?

greed is at the heart of it. the system in place offers power and money. both of which have a tendancy to corrupt. governing the people has become, using the people.

will ONE good man suddenly arrive and make a change? he would need to rouse the 'we the people' in a way unimaginable...and risk deletion.

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If only Jesus would bring the bacon.

Jesus? The "fresh fruit" guy on the corner?

ViRedd · #29 06-26-2007, 05:03 PM

I honestly believe the elites in government are in for a VERY rude awakening in '08. The so called aminesty bill is bringing the people together regardless of their political persuasion. Its no longer going to be left and right ... but what's right and wrong. Communication for the masses are just too great for the power brokers to stay in power much longer. Consider this conversation we are having via the Internet. Consider conservative talk radio. Consider balanced TV news broadcasts. The elites no longer have complete control of the information. They know it. They fear it. They will fail because of it.

Vi

ViRedd · #30 06-26-2007, 05:05 PM

I honestly believe the elites in government are in for a VERY rude awakening in '08. The so called aminesty bill is bringing the people together regardless of their political persuasion. Its no longer going to be left and right ... but what's right and wrong. Communication for the masses are just too great for the power brokers to stay in power much longer. Consider this conversation we are having via the Internet. Consider conservative talk radio. Consider balanced TV news broadcasts. The elites no longer have complete control of the information. They know it. They fear it. They will fail because of it.

Vi