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Old 12-07-2008, 11:10 AM
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between the US government and the FEDERAL RESERVE they have spent over 6 trillion dollars in the last 4 months...TRILLION..with a T....in 4 months..where did it go?..that kind of money should be felt in the economy..i MEAN FELT in the economy..the bankers are just stealing it..you have about half of this country thinking the other half of this country owe;s them a living..so not only does the other half the country that works have to work hard to support his family..he has to work twice as hard to support the banksters and welfare collectors of all stripes in this country..not only does the working man support the bumb on the street..he supports the multi millionaire and billionaires...the politicians are buying votes with OUR money..and have been doing it for some time..people no longer care about the USA..its all about greedy selfish them....thats OK..the half the population that has been working their ass off for years for nothing..are to the point that is no longer worth working..now who is going to support the banksters and welfare collectors.../?obama's solution..MORE DEBT..lets hyper inflate this bitch ..LOL..obama is a moron..watch this idiot in action the next four years..for the last two years he has been running back anf forth across this country saying how he is going to loot anyone making two nickels to rub together promising every broke dick and minority they they will have it made..all they have to do is vote for me..hes going to take from the rich and give to the poor..LOL..watch what investors do folks...this country is going down....and its going to go down hard...every country in the world has a capital gains tax of 11%...and moron obama wants to raise our's to 30%...i dont understand how anyone could be so fucking stupid to have voted for this socialist to beggin with...alot of the upheavel you are seeing in the markets right now are speculators speculating what obama is going to screw up ..before he ever gets into office..ill be damned if i let you little socialists take from me what i have worked to hard to earn....and alot of people think the same way i do....even billionaires are leaving the country..such as jim rogers..many multi millionaires have given up US citizenship...you know why? the damn thug government we live under is why..if you want to read a really good book on personal freedom...read harry brownes book..how i found freedom in a unfree world..
Hey Max, Hold on pal, I'll help you pack. If we could get rid of all the assholes, maybe we could save this democracy. Try and find a civilized country where the taxes are less.
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Old 12-07-2008, 12:32 PM
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Hey Max, Hold on pal, I'll help you pack. If we could get rid of all the assholes, maybe we could save this democracy. Try and find a civilized country where the taxes are less.
then who would you leech a living off of?...
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china comes to mind though the phillipeans...tiawan...vietnam...just to name a few...im thinking in a few years about retiring to vietnam ..and no..i dont need any help packing...and .untill..im not going to pay a dime to support YOU..or your little commie buddies.....you dont understand what compete means...you are competing with chinese..who happen to be better men than you are..and will work for cheaper..kind of pisses you off doesnt it?..that man will work a honest day for a honest day pay>? and all you can do is cry the big company owe;s you more and more..and then..you wonder why the big company packs the fuck up and rides out?...lol..what a bunch of losers
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It's funny, those that are well to the left, Med, DP, are going on and on about how radical and extremist Ron Paul is. I just don't see it. To me, extremist are those other flakes on the left like Acorn that got us into this mess by forcing banks to issue subprime mortgages with the help of government.

At any rate. Ron Paul's ideas were not radical, though one would certainly say that they were reformist, and would reduce government in size and scope to something less than it was in the 1930s.

The abolishment of Social Security (after floating the Debt necessary to pay off its obligations) would be a good thing for this country. In just that taxes could be lowered at least 7.5% (the employer's portion could be used to focus on paying off the national debt) or the complete 15% which would allow for a lot more spending in the economy.

But at any rate, I don't see what's so 'extremist' about Ron Paul's views. Seems to me that they are more a matter of common sense.

1. Limit Federal Powers, returning more authority to the States
2. Balance the Budget and work on paying off the debt.
3. Remove the ability to Print money from the government's hands by requiring that it use Gold and Silver as currency.
4. All of the above results in drastically lowered taxes, and returns authority over to the states. If the states want to continue to be socialist that their business, or if they want to become more capitalist that's their business as well. Instead of 1 gestalt, which is subject to being completely fucked up by the morons on the left, you have 50 entities united that are independent of each other, and thus can decide on their own what social system is best for their citizens. More to the point, the state(s) that choose the best system will become wealthier than the states that choose incorrectly. Ideally, this would provide a way for people to see which system works the best, and thus serve to end all debate.

Though I can just imagine how quickly the more socialist states would be swamped by people wanting free hand outs proving that when you subsidize something (stupidity, laziness) all you get is more of it.
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You know what's kind of funny, yet sad? The way people are talking about the man's beliefs in the past tense. He still believes in, preaches, and PRACTICES all of these things.
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Anyone who thinks Ron Paul is "radical," "weird," or "stupid" will change their minds after the first few paragraphs. Hey, some of you libbies and present students attending our government monopolized school systems may just come to the realization that U.S. History originated prior to 1960.



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THERES NOT A NEED FOR FEDERAL RESEVE OR FEDERAL TAXES FOR THAT MATTER STATE AND LOCAL TAX PAYS FOR EVERYTHING WE NEED, THE MONEY WE ARE GIVING AWAY WELL WE ARE GIVING IT AWAY TO THE FEDERAL BANK WHICH IS NOT A PART OF THE U.S. GOVERNMENT... ALL THIS SHIT IS ABOUT IS MONEY AND POWER SOMEBODY WANTS TO RULE THE WORLD AND THEY CANT DO THAT IF AMERCA IS THE ONLY ONE WITH IT...AND UGH FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND THAT THEY DONT WANT YOU TO KNOW...IS THERE ARE PEOPLE THEY HAVE ON THE MOON AND MARS YOU CAN WALK ON THE MOON WITHOUT A SUIT AS LONG AS YOU HAVEOXYGEN AND AS LONG AS YOU HAVE DECOMPRESSION PROPERLY DONE...ALSO THEY HAVE BEEN TAKING WATER FROM THE EARTH TO PUT IT ON THE MOON...THERES A REALLY OLD DOCUMENTRY THAT HAS ALOT OF INFO ON THIS http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=App2uRxZ4Iw
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wait, what was wrong with ron paul again?

He couldn't get elected because his views were just too radical. He wanted to Privatize everything, and that just wouldn't work. He did have some other good Ideas though, I must agree.
That statement is incorrect. He wants the federal government having less control and the states to have more control.

example- he wanted the Fema money for cleaning up the Texas Gulf sent to the local governments and let them handle the cleanup instead of Fema. After seeing how Fema mismanaged New Orleans I agree. Why give all that money to a branch of government that has a horrible record? Hell, even the Detroit Lions get it right once in awhile.
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