About the Middle Class .... - Page 2

Wavels · #11 05-14-2007, 02:11 PM

Med, you are once again letting emotion rule your thought process.
Corporations do not pay taxes.
Taxation of a corporation is simply a cost of doing business.
The corporations will raise their prices to maintain their profit margin.
The corporation's customers pay any tax increase.
The corporation just raises its prices, so the consumer bears the burden of any tax increase.
Once again, you have it exactly backwards!
Yikes!

Besides this, the fact is that a certain percentage of corporate earnings are taxed TWICE!
First a corporation pays a tax on its income, if that corporation pays a cash dividend to its shareholders, the shareholders pay an additional tax on the dividends they are paid out.

ViRedd · #12 05-14-2007, 04:28 PM

Hey guys ... don't confuse Med with facts ... his mind is made up.

Vi

7xstall · #13 05-15-2007, 06:48 AM

you are one warped puppy.
thanks.

Show me where I am wrong.
it would be much easier to show you where you're right....let me get back to you on that.

Did not the energy companies write energy policy behind closed doors with Dick cheney?
yes. dingdingding! now, when you were serving in Vietnam, did you have open door meetings and invite Jane Fonda or other peace activists to help you develop your day to day plans? what about the VC, were they invited to jot down notes about your patrol details? i hope not... there are times when you need to cut to the chase and get productive. so what, Cheney didn't want to sit and chat with a bunch of anti-oil idiots - at present oil runs our country so let's get down to business! now he needs to have another closed door meeting and put some pressure on big oil to ease up on this $3/ gal bs...

are not the corporations getting huge tax incentives
coporations like the airlines, whose union employee base threatens to go on strike if they don't get their new coke machines? what incentives? since i don't run a corporation i don't know...show me the money.

threatining to leave the country
i don't know.

, did not the top 5% of taxpayers recieve the largest cuts LOL all day long but you know I'm right.
let me make this simple med, if you wanted to buy 20 lbs of weed and i said, well, i sell this stuff for $65 a quarter so we'll multiply that by 4, then 16, then by 20...hmm, comes to $83,200. would you buy that from me if you could get the same thing for $2,000 a lb from someone else? you would rightly expect a volume discount. same for taxpayers. those of us who earn small annual amounts (<150,000) make up the bulk of the economy med, we create the burden on the government - not the big corps. it's simply not fair to tax them with the same rates as we pay. why do the dems resist this concept? jealousy.

Again I'll state: you are in some kind of time warp or other worldly head status if you can't see these facts. Look if you can't disprove these assertions, then just go back to your little dream world and snooze.
ok.

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ViRedd · #14 05-15-2007, 08:40 AM

A time warp is a great way to put it, 7x. People who have the thought base of Med are living in the past. They walk out on the same streets we do. They see the same skyscrapers, modes of transportation and type on keyboards similar to ours sending instant messages all over the world. They see all the other technological advancements we see, but it never occurs to them what it was that brought these advancements into existence. They would destroy the very heart of capitalism in their efforts to "progress" back into the Dark Ages.

Vi

medicineman · #15 05-15-2007, 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by ViRedd

A time warp is a great way to put it, 7x. People who have the thought base of Med are living in the past. They walk out on the same streets we do. They see the same skyscrapers, modes of transportation and type on keyboards similar to ours sending instant messages all over the world. They see all the other technological advancements we see, but it never occurs to them what it was that brought these advancements into existence. They would destroy the very heart of capitalism in their efforts to "progress" back into the Dark Ages.

Vi

In your world, everything must be for VI and Fuck everyone else. Why you think your pitiful little life is so important I'll never know. You must have been weened early or deprived of toys when you were young. Your selfish view, and others like you are the bane of the planet, Better buy some asbestos pajamas, cause you are sure to roast in hell!

ViRedd · #16 05-15-2007, 09:34 AM

And what did your last post have to do with the bane of socialism or the bright light of free market creativity? Can you ever indulge in rational political debate, Med?

Vi

medicineman · #17 05-15-2007, 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by 7xstall

you are one warped puppy.
thanks.

Show me where I am wrong.
it would be much easier to show you where you're right....let me get back to you on that.

Did not the energy companies write energy policy behind closed doors with Dick cheney?
yes. dingdingding! now, when you were serving in Vietnam, did you have open door meetings and invite Jane Fonda or other peace activists to help you develop your day to day plans? what about the VC, were they invited to jot down notes about your patrol details? i hope not... there are times when you need to cut to the chase and get productive. so what, Cheney didn't want to sit and chat with a bunch of anti-oil idiots - at present oil runs our country so let's get down to business! now he needs to have another closed door meeting and put some pressure on big oil to ease up on this $3/ gal bs...

are not the corporations getting huge tax incentives
coporations like the airlines, whose union employee base threatens to go on strike if they don't get their new coke machines? what incentives? since i don't run a corporation i don't know...show me the money.

threatining to leave the country
i don't know.

, did not the top 5% of taxpayers recieve the largest cuts LOL all day long but you know I'm right.
let me make this simple med, if you wanted to buy 20 lbs of weed and i said, well, i sell this stuff for $65 a quarter so we'll multiply that by 4, then 16, then by 20...hmm, comes to $83,200. would you buy that from me if you could get the same thing for $2,000 a lb from someone else? you would rightly expect a volume discount. same for taxpayers. those of us who earn small annual amounts (<150,000) make up the bulk of the economy med, we create the burden on the government - not the big corps. it's simply not fair to tax them with the same rates as we pay. why do the dems resist this concept? jealousy.

Again I'll state: you are in some kind of time warp or other worldly head status if you can't see these facts. Look if you can't disprove these assertions, then just go back to your little dream world and snooze.
ok.

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Nice job, doubletalk and bullshit. The reason the price of gas is 3.00+++ is the fact that cheney let the oil companies write their own policies. For someone that appears to have a bit of intelligence, you sure didn't show it on that post, I'm dissappointed 7X, you've been listening to Vi and wavels too much! Pretty soon you'll be just spouting the old mindless Bush rhetoric, and squeeling like a pig over your tax cuts. Ah yes the elite. I can hardly wait for the revolution, the first ones to go, the skull and bonsers, they are the most evil entity on the planet.

7xstall · #18 05-15-2007, 09:51 AM

{this is the part where you actually provide rational information, thanks!}

medicineman · #19 05-15-2007, 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 7xstall

{this is the part where you actually provide rational information, thanks!}

I have no information that your warped minds will accept as rational. When you are adjudicating from an irrational position, obviously the adjudicant will appear to be irrational. In other words when your mind is in a narrow crevice, you can't see whats on the outside. For me to try and explain common sense to you who have steeled your mind in Rhetoric is a hopeless endeavor and therefore I will not make the effort. If you ever exibit a willingness to listen to rationality, I will attempt to breach that thickness in your cranial area, otherwise, as usual, Bon Voyage.

7xstall · #20 05-15-2007, 10:18 AM

forcing successful businesses, which are the backbone of America, to pay more taxes is ludicrous. we should be figuring out ways to shrink the government to it's founding intent.

sounds rational to me.

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