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Old 11-13-2008, 08:52 AM
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And, as those of us who supported a real underdog have been reminded for at least two years now, there really is only so much a president can do. The real power lies in Congress. Are We The People paying attention to them?

You must mean the Democrats 8% approval rated Congress which the country just rewarded for doing such a great job? (I won't list their failures, it will take too long)

It was the Democratic Congress which did President Carter in, and if Obama goes down in flames, it will be the Dem's with blood on their political hands .. again.

Obama will have to be strong and if he is truly going to be a great President, he is going to have to say NO to many things.

You can be a "popular" president (think Clinton, willow tree), or you can be a "leader" president (think Bush, Oak tree), but only every once in a while can you be both ( think Reagan, Redwood tree)

Here's hoping that Obama is a Redwood tree, for all our sakes.



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Old 11-13-2008, 09:48 AM
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or you can be a "leader" president (think Bush, Oak tree), but only every once in a while can you be both ( think Reagan, Redwood tree)
Really??? I beg to differ. Think Bush (Idiot), Think Reagan (Trickledown). Just my humble opinion, BTW, think Clinton (best economy since I've been alive)
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Democrat or Republican, Jax, We The People do not follow the fucking bouncing ball. We are the United States of Amnesia, through and through.
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Every president we've ever had has been working towards their own vision of the future - Not Yours.
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Every president we've ever had has been working towards their own vision of the future - Not Yours.
Every person in the US has a different vision of the future though. The purpose of an election is to pick the guy whose views are most in line with the country's.
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Every person in the US has a different vision of the future though. The purpose of an election is to pick the guy whose views are most in line with the country's.
I don't think that was really the motivating factor behind the elections this year. I think it was more about people not electing another Republican on the basis that what happened during the last year.

Kind of shoots your theory down.
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Old 11-13-2008, 09:28 PM
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I don't think that was really the motivating factor behind the elections this year. I think it was more about people not electing another Republican on the basis that what happened during the last year.

Kind of shoots your theory down.
It doesn't invalidate anything I said. The purpose of an election really is to choose a candidate whose views are similar to those of the country as a whole. That's the whole point of having an election.
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and the country as a whole seemed to determine that Obama is the guy that shares the same views. Based on votes cast, he was chosen by the people.

How about giving the guy a chance? He might be able to get us un the road to being unfucked.
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Old 11-16-2008, 10:34 AM
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and the country as a whole seemed to determine that Obama is the guy that shares the same views. Based on votes cast, he was chosen by the people.

How about giving the guy a chance? He might be able to get us un the road to being unfucked.
Exactly. Even the dems got behind Bush at the beginning, until he proved himself incompetent, that didn't take long, at least give Obama that common curtesy. If he makes some idiotic decisions (In your view) then tell us what is wrong with them and how they should have been different. That sounds like a fair view, NO?
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Just because a candidate says something, doesn't mean it'll get done (privatizing social security and reforming the tax code, anyone?). McCain definitely lost my vote when he said he wants to build 45 nuclear power plants, and cut taxes at the same time (when insurance companies won't touch nuclear power plants, they have to be subsidized by the government). Where would they put these plants, I know I don't want one in my state

BTW I am an independent, and I'm waiting for Obama to be sworn in before I judge his Executive decisions, so that's what's now.
 

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