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Old 11-07-2008, 08:55 PM
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Anyone watch CNN during the day?

Today there was a woman, and damned if I can remember her name. She was going to give her thoughts on Marijuana decriminialztion in Mass. I stopped to watch it thinking "there is no way in hell this woman is going to say anything positive about this situation"

She ended up ranting about the money the federal government spends to fight marijuana and how the prisons are clogged with non-violent drug offenders. Her stance was to decriminalize and regulate nation wide.

You could have knocked me over with a feather, I just stood there awestruck by the words coming out of her mouth. Damn I wish I could remember her name.
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Old 11-07-2008, 08:56 PM
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Yep - he's an exception to the Good ol boy network! He's just one man in a whirlpool of shit. Anyone want to help him out of this shit?
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Yep - he's an exception to the Good ol boy network! He's just one man in a whirlpool of shit. Anyone want to help him out of this shit?
The man is a true Republican. I'd define that whirlpool of shit as a "whirlpool of neo-cons". The neo-cons have hijacked the Republican Party and that is why I left it 4 years ago and registered Libertarian. I was a registered Republican since 1978 up until then. I haven't smoked weed since 1979, yet, as a Republican, I always supported the right of people to grow and smoke it. I didn't leave the Republican Party, the Republican Party left me.
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Many if not most Washington DC employees have past experience as lobbyists. It'd be hard to find qualified employees if you excluded everyone with past lobbying experience. Also, most lobbyists aren't really bad people, I mean there are lobbyists who work on behalf of autistic kids or cancer research. Heck, NORML probably hires lobbyists too.

Ron Paul has probably set the record for number of house votes that went 434-1 or 1-434, where he was the 1. Not exactly a team player, that Ron Paul.
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Anyone watch CNN during the day?

Today there was a woman, and damned if I can remember her name. She was going to give her thoughts on Marijuana decriminialztion in Mass. I stopped to watch it thinking "there is no way in hell this woman is going to say anything positive about this situation"

She ended up ranting about the money the federal government spends to fight marijuana and how the prisons are clogged with non-violent drug offenders. Her stance was to decriminalize and regulate nation wide.

You could have knocked me over with a feather, I just stood there awestruck by the words coming out of her mouth. Damn I wish I could remember her name.
It will be on youtube, and if it isn't, I will hunt it down and put it up there.
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Many if not most Washington DC employees have past experience as lobbyists. It'd be hard to find qualified employees if you excluded everyone with past lobbying experience. Also, most lobbyists aren't really bad people, I mean there are lobbyists who work on behalf of autistic kids or cancer research. Heck, NORML probably hires lobbyists too.
Maybe so, but once again I have to then ask the question..."What did he mean if he said that lobbyists will have no place in his administration?" Is this another one of those "Well, what he really meant was...<insert interpretation here>"?

I suppose technically, one could say that he didn't directly hire a mega-lobbyist (one that lobbyed for Fannie Mae)...he just hired the guy's wife. I'm sure they don't discuss policy over dinner, right?
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The notion that Democrat elected officials are pro-cannabis is wishful thinking. They are not. Not once have they reversed any federal cannabis prohibition policy. Jimmy Carter mentioned re-legalization once as President and was crucified. We all remember Bill Clinton not inhaling. President-Elect Obama's position on decriminalization has evolved considerably from when he ran for Illinois State Senate.

Talk is cheap. I want action and that requires political courage. And the Democratic power structure benefits as much from prohibition as does the Republican power structure.

If you are an issue voter and cannabis is your issue, you don't have a home in either major party.
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I guess Obama meant that nobody would be able to work simultaneously for him and for a lobbying firm. After all, working for a lobbying firm shouldn't brand you for life.

You can influence your government in more ways than just by who you vote for. For example, you can write to your senators and representatives. They don't read all the letters, but their staff does.
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The notion that Democrat elected officials are pro-cannabis is wishful thinking. They are not. Not once have they reversed any federal cannabis prohibition policy. Jimmy Carter mentioned re-legalization once as President and was crucified. We all remember Bill Clinton not inhaling. President-Elect Obama's position on decriminalization has evolved considerably from when he ran for Illinois State Senate.

Talk is cheap. I want action and that requires political courage. And the Democratic power structure benefits as much from prohibition as does the Republican power structure.

If you are an issue voter and cannabis is your issue, you don't have a home in either major party.
I could not agree with you more John. The ONDCP is never going to go away unless all proponents start a grass roots movement like Obama did. We all need to start influencing our representatives and fighting the good fight until we prevail. I know it can be done....and in my lifetime.

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In IL the most of the Dems vote in favor of medical marijuana, so far only 1 repub has cast a vote in favor.


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Talk is cheap. I want action and that requires political courage. And the Democratic power structure benefits as much from prohibition as does the Republican power structure.

If you are an issue voter and cannabis is your issue, you don't have a home in either major party.
 

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