Wednesday night Glenn Beck will present the other side of the global warming debate on CNN. Check you local listings. This should be a very interesting program. I will be fun discussing it here on Thursday.

Vi

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you know the upside to global warming?

more CO2 in the atmosphere means bigger plants, which means more oxygen for all!

That's one advantage ... watch Glenn Beck for more. Maybe surfing in Anartica?

Vi

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Hi Vi......I was listening to Beck on the radio today, he had on as a guest the gentleman who produced the recent BBC broadcast expose of the Global Warming fraud.
The vitriolic personal attacks he described were indeed hair-raising!
He has endured dozens of non scientific attacks and is thoroughly alarmed by the extent of hostility shown by the holy rollers of Global Warming. What are these twits so fearful of, IF they have the science on their side?

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I would much rather watch the special that aired in Britain. Glen Beck is a religious nutball. A couple nights before he announced his little Anti-Global Warming special he was discussing the end times with a bunch of other religious lunies.

So, if a man fervently believes in his God, that makes him a nutball? Personally, I'd abide by the words of Mark, John and Matthew before I'd take the word of Al Gore.

Environmentalism has taken the place of religion for the secular Left. That's the reason they go ballistic when their prophets like Al Gore are challenged.

4thiest's response in this thread is typical ... mild, actually compared with what Glenn Beck is going to face after his special tonight.

Let's all, including those opposed, tune in and discuss it here tomorrow. Should be fun.

Vi

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Vi, Al Gore is challenged.



Manbearpig will kill us all.

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So ... what did you all think?

Vi

PS: Right on Dankster ... the man is demented.

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Svante August Arrhenius

The Swedish chemist and physicist Svante August Arrhenius (1859-1927) is known for his theory of electrolytic dissociation

Arrhenius remained at the Technical University until 1905 when, declining an offer from the University of Berlin, he became director of the physical chemistry division of the Nobel Institute of the Swedish Academy of Sciences in Stockholm. He continued his association with the Nobel Institute until his death in Stockholm on October 2, 1927.

Although he was always be remembered best for his work on dissociation, Arrhenius was a man of diverse interests. In the first decade of the twentieth century, for example, he became especially interested in the application of physical and chemical laws to biological phenomena. In 1908 Arrhenius published a book entitled Worlds in the Making in which he theorized about the transmission of life forms from planet to planet in the universe by means of spores.
Arrhenius's name has also surfaced in recent years because of the work he did in the late 1890s on the greenhouse effect. He theorized that carbon dioxide in the atmosphere has the ability to trap heat radiated from the Earth's surface, causing a warming of the atmosphere. Changes over time in the concentration of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere would then, he suggested, explain major climatic variations such as the glacial periods. In its broadest outlines, the Arrhenius theory sounds similar to current speculations about climate changes resulting from global warming.

The first theory of global warming came in 1824 when French mathematician Jean Baptiste Joseph Fourier discovered that the Earth's temperature was slowly increasing. Fourier argued that the earth's atmosphere traps solar radiation and reflects it back toward the earth.

In the late 19th century Fourier's theory was labeled the "greenhouse effect" when Nobel Laureate Svante Arrhenius coined the term to explain how carbon dioxide traps heat in the Earth's atmosphere. Arrhenius believed that the greenhouse effect was responsible for the onset of the ice ages. By the 1960s, many scientists dismissed this theory in favor of the hypothesis of Serbian geophysicist, Milutin Milankovitch, relating climate change to the orbital changes of the earth.

In the 1950s, amateur scientist G.S. Callendar warned that the greenhouse effect was true and dramatically impacting the atmosphere of the Earth. Callendar's claims were termed the "Callendar effect," and led to increased research on global warming. Over the next few decades, scientists developed ways to measure the Earth's climate and devised mathematical models to better analyze global temperature. This led to a steady rise in the belief that human activity was dramatically effecting the environment. Scientific studies began to predict that increased carbon dioxide emissions, due to increased use of fossil fuels, would trigger an outbreak of global warming.

Media sources during the late 20th century were confused about the effects of the warming; some predicted another ice age, while others predicted the melting of ice caps, which would generate world wide flooding. In 1992, at the United Nations Conference on Environment and Development more than 150 nations signed a declaration committing themselves to reducing carbon dioxide emissions in their countries. However, in 1994, the United Nations Panel on Climate Change asserted that global warming was still a threat and nations needed to enact drastic changes in order to negate the effects of global warming. This announcement sparked the creation of the Kyoto Protocol, an international agreement to fight global warming. The protocol called for countries to reduce their emission of greenhouse gases and was to take effect in 2005. The treaty was signed and ratified by 125 countries. However, the United States, which is estimated to be the world's largest producer of greenhouse gases, refused to sign the treaty.



The Swedish chemist and physicist Svante August Arrhenius (1859-1927) is known for his theory of electrolytic dissociation.

Svante Arrhenius was born on Feb. 19, 1859, at Vik near Uppsala, the son of Svante Gustav and Carolina Thunberg Arrhenius. His father was a land surveyor and later a supervisor at the University of Uppsala.

Arrhenius's intellectual abilities became obvious early. Against his parents' wishes, the blond, blue-eyed, rubicund child taught himself to read at the age of 3. He acquired a fantastic arithmetical skill and a pictorial memory by observing his father adding columns in his account books. In his future scientific work, he was especially fond of discovering relationships and laws from masses of data. At the age of 8, he entered the fifth grade of the cathedral school, where he distinguished himself particularly in physics and mathematics and from which he graduated, the youngest and ablest student, in 1876.

Theory of Electrolytes
Arrhenius entered the University of Uppsala, where he studied chemistry, physics, and mathematics. As he was not satisfied with his chief instructor in physics, he left Uppsala in 1881 to work on the conductivities of electrolytes at Stockholm under the physicist E. Edlund. In 1884 Arrhenius presented his results (Recherches sur la conductibilité galvanique des électrolytes) together with a new theory of electrolytes (Théorie chimique des électrolytes) in a 150-page dissertation for the doctorate at Uppsala. Although he compromised and moderated his radical ideas, his professors were not impressed and only grudgingly passed the dissertation. Arrhenius's theory of electrolytes encountered widespread resistance from the scientific world, but it eventually found confirmation in the modern theory of atomic structure. Of the 56 theses advanced in his 1884 dissertation, only a few have not withstood the test of time or have had to be greatly modified. In order to explain the nonconductance of solid salt and pure water when tested separately and the conductance of an aqueous salt solution, Arrhenius postulated that when a solid salt is dissolved in water its molecules dissociate or ionize into charged particles, which Michael Faraday had called ions years before. Whereas Faraday assumed that such ions are produced only during electrolysis, Arrhenius proposed that they are already present in solution even without the application of an electric current. Chemical reactions in solutions are thus reactions between ions. Arrhenius's views were essentially correct for weak electrolytes (weak acids, bases, and other covalent substances), but for strong electrolytes his ideas were modified in 1923 by the Debye-Hückel theory of inter-ionic attraction.

Yes, electrolytes; Try Gatorade. But riddle me this Batman, what do electrolytes have to do with Global Warming?