Just wondering if anyone is up for a good debate.

No personal attacks, no ganging up, no bullshit,,, just ideas of your own

Some topics could include:

Abortion
Capital Punishment
Pubic healthcare
Welfare
Disability
Pension
Tax
Mental Healthcare/Addiction care
War
Oil
Euthanasia
Legalization of any kind of drugs

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or anything else you can think of.

Please note,, this is a polite debate only. No Nazi's.

I saw a play about the death penalty recently... Personally I think we need it for some cases where there is no chance at rehabilitating the offender, but at the same time is it not even more cruel to kill someone who is obviously very mentally ill?

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Here is one point of view.

"I think the death penalty will help eliminate bad genes from the gene pool and am all for it. Why waste resources on them for 60 some odd years? Just kill them and save everyone the trouble."

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I always used to be pro-capital punishment,, and then when i fucked up in life and got a second chance it kind of turned my decision around. But I don't know if everyone would take that second chance and make good use of it. The other problem I found with capital punishment is that as soon as one innocent human dies from the penalty of death the whole system has failed.

what needs to be done needs to be done

we need to start treating people before they kill. I know we try but we need to try harder.
When a schizo kills someone who are we to say that he/she even knew what the hell was going on?
Ive seen some fucked up people. I know what drugs can even do to people and there has been many studies to link some drugs with schizophrenia.
Amphetamnine psychosis, for instance, can put someone completely out of thier mind for the rest of thier life. And that not even including people who are born into a "disease" similar to that.
These types of people need to be locked away and examined in hopes that we can maybe prevent a "next time" from happening. We need to do a better job at learning why these people do what they do. Killing someone is a very quick fix in my opinion but sometimes there is just no other option. I just think we might be using it a little "liberally" (not to be confused with the liberal or libertarian part).

Some people just can't be helped. There is always going to be that 1% that needs to die. ooh, sounds cold eh?

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The only purpose that the death penalty serves to kill those who kill. It doesn't deter murder in any way shape or form. I am pro death penalty when the crime is multiple murders. I believe the death penalty should be automatic when 5 or more witnesses are available to testify that you were a multiple murder. In these cases, appeals should be minimized to save tax dollars.
The most screwed up thing about the US court system is that lifers are serving time with people that are sentenced for less than 10 years. These populations should not serve time together. The court system basically sends common criminals to the Yale and Harvard of crime schools and expect them to be rehabilitated. Most "graduate" as better criminals than they were before or they are drug dependent.

I heard, and i think its true, it costs more money to kill someone than keep them in prison , thats why I dont think they do it often.

Who gets to decide the good and bad in the gene pool? Would you want that job?

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