ACORN?! Don't talk to me about ACORN.

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and lastly niether party is the same party it was in 37

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That much is certain.

I think the so called "War on Drugs" was started under Nixon, wasn't it?

Vi

History channel has a pretty good program on it. Drug war that is.

Not voter fraud for Obama by ACORN. Well, not yet anyway.

PBS was set to do a documentary on our government's endorsement of torture...but pressure from above (federal funding) is causing them to delay it until January 21, 2009, or later. Interesting coincidence, that date.

did i see mccain was the keynote speaker at a acorn co sponcered meeting and he said something like " the ppl in this room is what's so special about america "

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PBS was set to do a documentary on our government's endorsement of torture...but pressure from above (federal funding) is causing them to delay it until January 21, 2009, or later. Interesting coincidence, that date.

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Lets see Bongulator

A terrorist is caught after announcing he planted nuclear weapons in NYC.

What do you do?

Well, Liberalists want us to ask Ahmed, "Ahmed, would you like a prayer rug, and a compass, and a cigarette? How about a Koran?"

Conservatives want us to put panties on Ahmed's head, while forcing him to stand up for prolonged periods of time and managing his diet. Then they might move on to making him listen to Christina Aguilera. If those don't work to get him to talk we waterboard him.

What is waterboarding?

Water boarding is simply the act of dripping water on some one, or using a towel that's been soaked in water to make them think they are downing.

So, you know, in a perfect world, Ahmed, our would be nuclear terrorist, would probably respond to the Liberalis, by saying, "Oh, well jeez, maybe these people aren't so bad, I'll tell them where the nukes are."

Unfortunately, we don't live in a perfect world, and we have to keep in mind that the terrorists are clinically insane.

So, short of the Christina Aguilara music, I don't see anything wrong with the "torture" methods used to get the information we want.

Then again, if Ahmed the Terrorist had planted nukes in NYC I wouldn't see anything wrong with dragging him behind a moving vehicle, chopping off a few limbs, and branding him with hot pokers like Al Qaida would do to our captured soldiers, before they move on to decapitation.

"Then again, if Ahmed the Terrorist had planted nukes in NYC I wouldn't see anything wrong with dragging him behind a moving vehicle, chopping off a few limbs, and branding him with hot pokers like Al Qaida would do to our captured soldiers, before they move on to decapitation."

Or, even a more terrifying option would be to make him listen to accordion music for a week straight.

Vi

ViRedd said:

"Then again, if Ahmed the Terrorist had planted nukes in NYC I wouldn't see anything wrong with dragging him behind a moving vehicle, chopping off a few limbs, and branding him with hot pokers like Al Qaida would do to our captured soldiers, before they move on to decapitation."

Or, even a more terrifying option would be to make him listen to accordion music for a week straight.

Vi

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I don't know, there's some pretty good accordion music...

but if it's the bad kind, yeah, that is more horrifying.

Torture doesn't yield truthful answers. What torture will give you is the answers that the captive *thinks* you want to hear. And, the moral high ground is far more valuable than untruthful answers from the tortured. I'm not necessarily against trying it anyway, if there's a nuclear warhead hidden somewhere, but I'm not dumb enough to believe that torture yields useful intelligence, under that or any other circumstance.

this acorn shit might git pretty funny for u dems this mtg controversy looks like it's going to blow up in their faces , there's already a special prosecutor on the justice dept that fits into this , when u play games and pretend it don't always go down the way u plan .