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Old 04-19-2007, 08:32 AM
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Thumbs down Congress to vote on "Grassroots Gag Order" - again

here is the resolution:
Search Results - THOMAS (Library of Congress)

parts of this bill require more transparency from the government, that's a good thing.

other parts will force activist organizations to keep mountains of records of who, when, where. smaller organizations simply can not afford the staff, materials and time this new law will demand of them. imagine if you wanted to start an organization to inform voters of new laws (ex. medical marijuana) but you had to document who first told you about it, when they told you, exactly what they told you, etc! instead of spreading the word - you now have to sit at a desk and document everything.

this is a HUGE step toward consolidation and conglomeration of powerful lobby groups! this is HUGE, do not miss it!

please contact your congressman today, tell them you support the federal transparency portion of the bill but the burden on organizations to record communications is too great and unneeded.






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Hmmm ...

Perhaps a whole new bureaucracy can be formed to handle the compilation of documents and enforce compliance. Kinda like the IRS. *lol*

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Old 04-20-2007, 11:54 AM
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yeah, the ITR, internal thought regulation. this is literally a thought tax; unprecedented, blatant disregard for public involvement in legislative matters.


if you want to inform people then you'll inform them our way and it will cost you...
oh, you're not rich and powerful? hmmm, maybe we can setup some exemptions or something... maybe we can certify you as an official info distributor. in fact, why don't we just become the media and do all this for you peons, get the middle man out of the way??



it's one of those things that i just shake my head at and wonder what is going on here? what makes these elitist maggots think they get to dictate how the public sector transfers and publishes information about the government?






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democrats are hell bent on making this anti-speech bill a reality.

even though it was defeated in April, another dem has tucked this nasty piece of legislation into another bill...

please put the effort in to kill this bill again! H.R. 2093


summary of H.R. 2093:


"To amend the Lobbying Disclosure Act of 1995 to provide for additional reporting by lobbying firms. This amendment, sponsored by Rep. Martin Meehan (D-Mass.), would establish, for the first time, federal regulatory authority over efforts aimed at motivating citizens to communicate with their representatives about bills moving in Congress."



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Meehan Grassroots Bill, HR 2093, Relies on Deceit, Concealment to Violate Constitution ...
HSLDA | H.R. 2093—To Amend the Lobbying Disclosure Act of 1995
Meehan Grassroots Bill, HR 2093, Relies on Deceit, Concealment to Violate Constitution, Says GrassrootsFreedom.com





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Review of Statutory Barriers to Public Access Information-
    • (1) REVIEW OF STATUTES- As part of the report required under subsection (a)(3), the Archivist shall examine existing Federal statutes that allow Federal agencies, offices, or contractors to control, protect, or otherwise withhold information based on security concerns.
    • (2) RECOMMENDATIONS- The report shall make recommendations on potential changes to the Federal statutes examined under paragraph (1) that would improve public access to information governed by such statutes.......................................... ........................... I pretty much saw this bill as a White house conditional policy bill with allowing more public access to white house shennanigans and making the white house post all contacts with "crooks" otherwise known as lobbiests. The absolute removal of lobbiests from the governmental system, I would view as a good thing. All you constitutionalists should be glad to see lobbying taken out of the frey. Where in the constitution did it mention lobbiests taking over the control of congress and the white house. I'm for 1 man-1 vote, not one lobbiest delivering thousands of votes, Or a huge campaign contribution, whether it's a union lobbiest or a Pharma lobbiest.
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they've got you hook line and sinker, you must be as blind as a bat.

it's one thing for the federal government to further compound it's own work load and require more high-paying/low-value jobs (archivists) but as i said in the first post, this bill will require EVERY organization which provides info to the public concerning legislative action to document each and every contact with elected officials. they will have to hire new pointless people and they don't have access to imaginary funds like the government does.

obviously, the purpose of this is to stifle the efforts of small watchdog groups.

the elitist dems don't like hearing from their constituents so they want to silence the people keeping them informed. this isn't about lobbyists at all, it's about elitists not wanting to be bothered by the little people.

the left doesn't want the small orgs to keep us informed, they want the big lobby firms to have all the power of disseminating info.



i just hope everyone understands how terrible this law would be for our country. another assault on the average American by the socialists party.






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Excellent, 7x.

A perfect case in point would be Med's diatribes right here in the political forum. Just increase the volume of the rhetoric and you have the totalitarian socialist attitude of "free speech for me, but not for thee." And THAT'S what this bill is all about.

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