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Old 09-23-2008, 11:09 AM
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Arrow New Poll: ZERO PERCENT say economy is getting better
Now this is something you don't see everyday ... I wonder what excuses the parrot bushies will come up with this ...



New Poll: ZERO PERCENT say economy is getting better

Zero percent ... wow ... not I've seen many a post from bushies talking about how great the economy is ... in fact they want four more year of the same

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LOL.. no way! You mean some people are coming into reality? 82% realize it..
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Old 09-23-2008, 11:32 AM
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anybody who reads my posts knows i take on the repubs regularly, but really now guys - a poll has nothing to do with how the overall economy is doing. also, the people who answer those polls are the ones who have a vested interest - like those out of a job.

right now the overall economy is doing pretty well. granted, the crisis in the mortgage market is likely to spread and contribute to a recession in the next few months, but that is not a certainty and it doesnlt mean today;s economy sucks.

now if you wanted to talk about the decline in real income of the average american, then i think you;d have a better argument against the repubs.
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You're definently right about vested interest, thing is, more and more people have that vested interest. A year ago I thought we were secure in our financial wellness. Today the fear is creeping in. I seriously doubt I'm alone on this. I believe there are Millions that are one paycheck away from financial disaster, I'm not quite that bad off, but if my wife would lose her job, we'd be finished. My wifes boss is selling his Utah mountain cabin, a gorgeous place. He has 400K+ invested and wants 800K. The thing is, the super rich could snap that up in a hgeartbeat, so it will probably sell fast. Recession/Depressions are great for the super rich, they just buy up all the bargains and add to their wealth. When the depression is over, they sell everything back for a gynormous profit.
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Recession/Depressions are great for the super rich, they just buy up all the bargains and add to their wealth. When the depression is over, they sell everything back for a gynormous profit.
sounds like a winning formula for everyone. if we weren't such a consumer society we would have saved for a rainy day and all have money to invest during a downturn if we were so brave. truth is the rich are just as scared of recent developments as the poor so i'm not sure they will be taking much advantage of this situation.
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sounds like a winning formula for everyone. if we weren't such a consumer society we would have saved for a rainy day and all have money to invest during a downturn if we were so brave. truth is the rich are just as scared of recent developments as the poor so i'm not sure they will be taking much advantage of this situation.
Well, if they have holdings in the sub-prime arena, they should be worried. But the Super rich, are protected at every turn. BTW. Most lower class workers, Under 40K a year, are unable to save anything, in fact, most of them are so fucked with credit card debt, they can't pay the mortgage and the card debt. A lot of people took seconds out on their homes to pay off the credit cards and are now stuck with double house payments while the value of their home continues to tumble. This was all instigated by low interest and greedy consumerism, hungry loan officers and stupidity. Just about everyone has some guilt in this meltdown. But as always, they are talking about a cure from the top down. Isn't it about time they had a bottom up revision?
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right now the overall economy is doing pretty well. granted, the crisis in the mortgage market is likely to spread and contribute to a recession in the next few months, but that is not a certainty and it doesnlt mean today;s economy sucks.

now if you wanted to talk about the decline in real income of the average american, then i think you;d have a better argument against the repubs.
The overall economy is doing well for who? Certainly not the average american ... I just can't see how that could be with a declining dollar and so much debt ... I can see the economy going good for corporations ... is that who you speak of?
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How much of the polls (any poll) are driven by media propaganda?

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As far as this issue ... the media has been playing down the depression ... the high unemployment ... so no propaganda here ... people are responding accorrding to their pocketbook ...
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The overall economy is doing well for who? Certainly not the average american ... I just can't see how that could be with a declining dollar and so much debt ... I can see the economy going good for corporations ... is that who you speak of?
the overall economy is the overall economy, to state the obvious, not a single sector like employment or real estate. the overall economy is still growing at a good rate, although that;s about to end. the plight of the american worker is a different story and that;s why i said it was a legitimate point to knock the repubs with their declining real income



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Well, if they have holdings in the sub-prime arena, they should be worried. But the Super rich, are protected at every turn. BTW. Most lower class workers, Under 40K a year, are unable to save anything, in fact, most of them are so fucked with credit card debt, they can't pay the mortgage and the card debt. This was all instigated by low interest and greedy consumerism, hungry loan officers and stupidity. J
see, we agree, its the people's fault who decided they wanted that second car, second tv set, second everything. unless you;re about to say that companies are responsible for consumer behavior just because they advertise stupid products or to make silly decisions. who decided to get these home equity loans, anyway?
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