Palin as VP Choice quite disturbing.

llLOU

Well-Known Member
All I know is that when you are up in arms about something you damn well better follow it through. Abstinence only doesn't work does it? If it did Little Bristol (nothing like naming your kid after a brand of cigarettes) wouldn't be pregnant would she?

Teen pregnancy is 100% preventable.
Ever heard of BRISTOL BAY ?
 

misshestermoffitt

New Member
Yeah that pic will go over real well when she's dealing with Foreign relations. Those middle eastern countries hate us enough already, and now you want to send a bimbo that can't keep her daughters legs closed over there to deal with them?

If MCCain wins, I'll be building my bomb/fallout shelter pronto.
 

llLOU

Well-Known Member
Yeah that pic will go over real well when she's dealing with Foreign relations. Those middle eastern countries hate us enough already, and now you want to send a bimbo that can't keep her daughters legs closed over there to deal with them?

If MCCain wins, I'll be building my bomb/fallout shelter pronto.
YOU,?????
Not me mate. A few million Americans want her , but not me, I'm voting for the only candidate that takes a stand for the decriminalization of Marijuana. ME!
 

ZenMaster

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Yeah that pic will go over real well when she's dealing with Foreign relations. Those middle eastern countries hate us enough already, and now you want to send a bimbo that can't keep her daughters legs closed over there to deal with them?

If MCCain wins, I'll be building my bomb/fallout shelter pronto.
How can anyone completely control their children? They can try to teach and forewarn but they can't make their decisions, if they did constantly she would be accused of being a house nazi. I honestly cannot believe people are attacking her daughters, it is incredibly trivial and irrelevant. Its just sad.
 

misshestermoffitt

New Member
it's just that she thinks that schools that teach sex education and birth control don't deserve funding. That's what abstinence only education means.

Now we see what happens when we don't educate our teens. THey get PREGNANT or they GET SOMEBODY PREGNANT.

25% of the population of New York has herpes. Do you think that many adults would have herpes if they had been properly educated about sex, disease, contraception and prevention?
 

medicineman

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it's just that she thinks that schools that teach sex education and birth control don't deserve funding. That's what abstinence only education means.

Now we see what happens when we don't educate our teens. THey get PREGNANT or they GET SOMEBODY PREGNANT.

25% of the population of New York has herpes. Do you think that many adults would have herpes if they had been properly educated about sex, disease, contraception and prevention?
I'm sure glad they didn't have AIDS when I was young, crabs and Ghonorrea, some syphilis, but all could be cured with some penecillan or some blue ointment. I was lucky, only got crabs. No condoms for our age of sex pistols. Today, I'd be damned sure to wear one. Sex was pretty lax where I grew up, plenty of first date encounters.
 

ZenMaster

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it's just that she thinks that schools that teach sex education and birth control don't deserve funding. That's what abstinence only education means.

Now we see what happens when we don't educate our teens. THey get PREGNANT or they GET SOMEBODY PREGNANT.

25% of the population of New York has herpes. Do you think that many adults would have herpes if they had been properly educated about sex, disease, contraception and prevention?
Uh, yes.

I did all that sex education in school, and there were still pregnancies and STDs rampant. I'm not pro abstinence, I am pro responsibility. If you mess up, you deal with the consequences, not wave a wand and tell the good doctor to take the little bothersome thing away so you can have some more fun.

This is trivial, admit it. Attack her on a real issue.
 

medicineman

New Member
Uh, yes.

I did all that sex education in school, and there were still pregnancies and STDs rampant. I'm not pro abstinence, I am pro responsibility. If you mess up, you deal with the consequences, not wave a wand and tell the good doctor to take the little bothersome thing away so you can have some more fun.

This is trivial, admit it. Attack her on a real issue.
How about trying to get her ex-brother-in-law fired from the AHP, family interest, as governor. Don't worry, there will be a shitpot of Gaffs in her so called carreer.
 

ZenMaster

Well-Known Member
How about trying to get her ex-brother-in-law fired from the AHP, family interest, as governor. Don't worry, there will be a shitpot of Gaffs in her so called carreer.
She addressed this you know-

Palin has said previously that she discussed Wooten with Monegan only in the context of security concerns for the family. Monegan has said that Palin never directly told him to fire Wooten but that the message was clearly conveyed through repeated messages from Palin, her husband and three members of her Cabinet.

To allege that I, or any member of my family . . . directed disciplinary action be taken against any employee of the Department of Public Safety, is, quite simply, outrageous," Palin said in a statement in mid-July after Monegan's dismissal.

He showed The Post two e-mails he received from Palin, but he declined to give copies. The first e-mail came on Feb. 7, 2007, after the governor's husband, Todd, met with Monegan to press the case for disciplinary action against Wooten. Palin's family had accused the trooper of shooting a cow moose without a permit, Tasering his stepson, and drinking while driving a trooper vehicle. After her husband met with Monegan, Palin followed up with a phone call to Monegan.

Scout.com: Update: Palin the Trooper Snooper

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This is all?
 

ZenMaster

Well-Known Member
How about "Yes I'll take your $400 million and the spout about saying no to the "bridge to nowhere"? Where'd the money go?
Flopping Aces » Blog Archive Palin’s “Bridge to Nowhere”: Fiscally responsible or politically expedient?

I've checked you're little accusation, and I do not see where she got the money. She didn't go ahead because it would cost to much for the taxpayers, so they didn't give a dime.

Is there something I am missing?
 

misshestermoffitt

New Member
Palin "bridge to nowhere" line angers many Alaskans

In the city Ketchikan, the planned site of the so-called "Bridge to Nowhere," political leaders of both parties said the claim was false and a betrayal of their community, because she had supported the bridge and the earmark for it secured by Alaska's Congressional delegation during her run for governor.

"She said 'thanks but no thanks,' but they kept the money," said Elerding about her applause line.

"You don't tell a group of Alaskans you support something and then go to someplace else and say you oppose it," said Phillips, who supported Palin's opponent, Democrat Tony Knowles, in the 2006 gubernatorial race.

Palin "bridge to nowhere" line angers many Alaskans - Yahoo! News
 

desertrat

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She didn't go ahead because it would cost to much for the taxpayers, so they didn't give a dime.

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i don't have the reference, but it was reported on the network news that the money for the bridge was included in a general grant to the state that allowed the state to decide its own priorities. palin decided that the bridge was too controversial and that there were better uses of the money. that was the story, anyway.
 

ZenMaster

Well-Known Member
Palin "bridge to nowhere" line angers many Alaskans

In the city Ketchikan, the planned site of the so-called "Bridge to Nowhere," political leaders of both parties said the claim was false and a betrayal of their community, because she had supported the bridge and the earmark for it secured by Alaska's Congressional delegation during her run for governor.

"She said 'thanks but no thanks,' but they kept the money," said Elerding about her applause line.

"You don't tell a group of Alaskans you support something and then go to someplace else and say you oppose it," said Phillips, who supported Palin's opponent, Democrat Tony Knowles, in the 2006 gubernatorial race.

Palin "bridge to nowhere" line angers many Alaskans - Yahoo! News
We have conflicting sources, mine says that she did NOT tax the Alaskans, so how would she keep that money?

Second, she didn't because of one, the funding, and two she felt like exploring alternate routes. Tough decision to make but she made it.
 

misshestermoffitt

New Member
It wasn't just Alaska citizens that were paying for it. Government funding means we all chipped in.


Last year, Palin announced she was stopping state work on the controversial project, earning her admirers from earmark critics and budget hawks from around the nation. The move also thrust her into the spotlight as a reform-minded newcomer.

The state, however, never gave back any of the money that was originally earmarked for the Gravina Island bridge, said Weinstein and Elerding.

In fact, the Palin administration has spent "tens of millions of dollars" in federal funds to start building a road on Gravina Island that is supposed to link up to the yet-to-be-built bridge, Weinstein said.

"She said 'thanks but no thanks,' but they kept the money," said Elerding about her applause line.
 

ZenMaster

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http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/08/31/palins-bridge-to-nowhere-fiscally-responsible-or-politically-expedient/

The project has some federal money but is short about $300 million. No one expects Congress to kick in any more cash, and most legislators aren’t willing to open up the state checkbook. So the likely place to find $300 million is from the pockets of users. But we’re not talking about dropping a few coins into a toll basket. Get ready to dig into your wallet and pull out a lot of bills to drive on a long approach ramp to climb 200 feet in the air on one bridge, then down on a middle island, then up 120 feet in the air on a second bridge to reach the airport island, and down again on another long ramp. Or just leave it as is, and ride the shuttle ferry a few minutes for the short walk to the terminal.

At that point, Palin was still allowing design and feasibility to still go forward. So where are we now:

-She inherited the controversial project, knowing there was a need.
-The transition team’s reports showed the that project, plus another, were not fiscally responsible and the federal funding came no where close to paying for the bridge.
-She did not allocate any State monies for go ahead with the expensive bridge
-Many Alaskans, including those in Ketchikan, were also opposed to the bridge at that expense
-They were considering alternative methods.

Between the fiscal analyses, plus dissenting voices protesting the expense it would lay upon the taxpayers, is it any wonder that by September 2007, Palin officially canned the Bridge to Nowhere project, to the criticism of it’s advocates.
 
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