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All I know is that when you are up in arms about something you damn well better follow it through. Abstinence only doesn't work does it? If it did Little Bristol (nothing like naming your kid after a brand of cigarettes) wouldn't be pregnant would she?

Teen pregnancy is 100% preventable.
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miss, i get that you think the country has been poorly led. i get that you think the republican party cannot change its stripes and don;t want 4 more years of what you've seen for the last 8.

having those feelings is your right.but can;t you see bristol's humanity and respect her right to live her life in private if she so chooses?

ask yourself if winning at any cost is worth it?
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come on vi,

the attacks on both sides are pretty petty. as one of the few true independents, i can tell you i have been disgusted equally by the irrelevent and often personal attacks. i don;t think a candidate's daughter is fair game just as i don;t think someone;s minister is fair game.

instead of this crap, i would like to know enough about someone to form a judgement of their character, experience and intentions. i'd also like to know how their actions would be influenced by their party. give me that and i can make an informed decision.

all of the rest of this is noise, entertainment or a sign of a deteriorating society, and depending on how wasted i am one or the other of these options seems best.
OK, I appreciate your attempt at fairness but your comparison is faulty. Here's why:

O'Bama went to Rev. Wright's church for 20 years. Wright and O'Bama are personal friends. O'Bama and his wife were married by Wright. Wright is a racist hate-monger who preaches anti-America rhetoric. If you notice, the media are really keeping him under wraps. Why? Because Wright IS a reflection of O'Bama's character.

On the other hand, trying to destroy Palin over her daughter's pregnancy is ridiculous. If Sarah Palin got her daughter pregnant, the left would have a case ... ~lol~ but to attempt to destroy a candidate because her daughter made a mistake just shows how desperate, grasping and full of fear over this women the Left really is.

Think of what this media exposure is doing to the daughter. A bit insensitive for the "tolerant" progressives, don't you think?

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Sarah Palin will (and is) be the hottest looking VP in history..........and Cindy McCain aint too bad herself.....all accomplished women who deserve to make there mark on history. OBAMA go back to your mamma!
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What about all the other teen girls that are in the same situation that don't have rich parents to pay for it? Who's going to help them? Kids deserve a right to sex education. Ignoring teen sex just makes things worse. I can't believe that no one can see that.

Maybe her other daughter can get pregnant at 15, that might open her eyes.
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O'Bama went to Rev. Wright's church for 20 years. Wright and O'Bama are personal friends. O'Bama and his wife were married by Wright. Wright is a racist hate-monger who preaches anti-America rhetoric. If you notice, the media are really keeping him under wraps. Why? Because Wright IS a reflection of O'Bama's character.
mmm...it never ceases to amaze me how one side thinks its attacks are fairer than the other. in the interests of creating real understanding if not agreement, let me give you an alternative explanation from someone like me who grew up in the black community (and i still can't support obama, but for policy and experience reasons, not character):

look at the facts:

wright - racist
obama - biracial
wright - demagogue
obama - intellectual

guilt by association is a standard tactic of the right. these are two different people with two very different world views. are you really saying that you believe obama holds these views?? instead, isn't it more likely that their shared background was what brought them together, not their very different world views?
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^^^ Old adage: A person is judged by the company he/she keeps.

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vi,

isn't judging someone by the company they keep the same thing as guilt by association with positive spin? actually, i think the adage was directed at teaching children that other people will judge them, perhaps unfairly, by the company you keep. the adage is a warning about the actions of others, not the actions of the person. aren't we mature enough to see the reasons someone might associate with someone else and still hold very different views? can't you see that obama feels a connection to people like rev. wright because of their shared background even as he disagrees with his positions. unless you believe a biracial person can be a racist??
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isn't judging someone by the company they keep the same thing as guilt by association with positive spin? actually, i think the adage was directed at teaching children that other people will judge them, perhaps unfairly, by the company you keep. the adage is a warning about the actions of others, not the actions of the person. aren't we mature enough to see the reasons someone might associate with someone else and still hold very different views? can't you see that obama feels a connection to people like rev. wright because of their shared background even as he disagrees with his positions. unless you believe a biracial person can be a racist??
Its not just his association with Wright. How about his friend Ayers, the 1960's terrorist bomber ... and the Chicago gangster he went partners with in the land deal?

No, I don't think O'Bama is a racist ... he just thinks "typical White People are angery and hunkering down with their guns and Jesus." ~lol~

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big sigh - guess we have to agree to disagree
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