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Old 09-02-2008, 01:23 AM
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i'm sitting here wondering the last few days, how can one enlist in the armed forces and feel good about fighting in this war of ours? i could see already being involved and going to "do your job". but in the last 2 years why would anyone want to enlist? are they not the fuel to this war machine? if people just stopped joining wouldn't this send a message? why are so many of our young so eager to kill for the name of "freedom"? free from what? were we really that much in danger? shouldn't our government not be the ones protecting us at home? why are our children still killing themselves?


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Old 09-02-2008, 01:37 AM
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Have you seen the recruiters at the high schools? I was in high school when 9/11 happened, and I was still there when we went to war.

Between 9/11 and the time the war was actually declared, we suddenly had a shit load of recruiters on campus. Every day. Sometimes not even with a booth or anything, sometimes just kickin it, talking to...whoever.

They were kinda cultish. I mean, they'd straight out punk people who said anything against the war. Someone made a comment about the recruiters being there, and they like ganged up on him and...just bullied this high school kid.

I dunno, I have a problem with them in there talking to kids. Especially if their feeding them bullshit. Everyone I know who enlisted said that their recruiter lied to them about SOMETHING.

And if they're in high schools, they're in there talking to kids as young as...14. I don't like the idea of kids being talked into dying in this....mess.

I mean, come on, the politicians know to keep their kids out of the armed forces. If the politicians don't trust their kids lives to the armed forces, why should anyone else?
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my buddy joined the Navy because they told him he could "do a lot of fishing". he made it 2 weeks and was home. he tried to take his poles with him on check-in day and they all laughed at him. he said dude told him it was all cool. they said "welcome to the Navy".
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I have also noticed this???Maybe if there was not so much media brainwashing BS going on,they would really see the truth of war....To be honest i think they even show more military commercials now
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I can't really understand why anyone would enlist NOW. I know a lot of people who enlisted after 9/11, because they wanted to do something about what happened, and yeah, I can understand that.

And I have friends who enlisted after we declared war on Iraq, even some who didn't agree with going to war, but felt that it was their duty to fight for their country if we were at war. I can understand that too.

But...once it became apparent that we had been lied to, that the entire war was a fucking sham....I can't understand why someone would want to enlist after that. I couldn't enlist because to me, by enlisting you're supporting this bs war and all the lies that have been told to us since 9/11.
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The Army. Accelerate you life.

Accelerate: to hasten the occurrence of

They want to hasten your life.

Even they're slogan tells you you're gonna die.
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i used to see soldiers in public and think "thank you". now i think "wtf?".
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It's one thing to fight for something, for a cause, or a goal that can be won, but just throwing lives away...for....whatever. I don't even know what. Because they don't matter I guess. Because the people who make the decisions are secure in the knowledge that their kids are safe.

I bet if their kids were over there, I bet if every one of them had at least one loved one over there somewhere very dangerous, every day, they would put a lot more effort into getting us out of there.
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like was stated earlier a good portion of them lie because they are pressured to make the numbers or they can be transferred.. i was watching a documentary about this very subject and one of the recruiters hated his job because he knew what he was doing was wrong.

Top 10 Lies (Some) Recruiters Tell
Army Recruiters Face Investigation, Caught On Tape: Recruiters Seemingly Helping 'Prospect' Lie - CBS News
Military Recruiters Lie About Dangers In Iraq - Cincinnati News Story - WLWT Cincinnati

one of these douche bags tried to say there were like thousands of deaths in cincinatti and you had more of a chance of dying here than there considering over the entire course of the war we have only lost a couple thousand... haha douche

they are having a hard time recruiting now because nobody wants to go over there but they trick you in the beginning.. my girlfriends brother is about to go back for his 3rd or 4th tour and he only signed up for two years but then there is a two year period after your two years of active duty where you can be recalled at any time... and believe me they use it.. sure they might send 10,000 home this month but they will recall 20,000.. sick shit...

a big part of why kids used to do it was the lure of money.. just think about how many taxpayer dollars goes to bribing these kids to join, anywhere from 10-50k bonuses, college paid for free room and board.. they make it sound like summer camp...

shits pure evil if you ask me...

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