Lmfao.. If I remember correctly Hitler was also all about 'change' and 'for the people'..

Ah yes.. Obama just loves our Constitutional rights.. well some of them anyways.

You just can't have her kind talking to the press, you must arrest them and change them with interference.

Anyone worried the time will come where these protesters don't come back?

I don't worry about that just yet, I worry about other things. Like the president calling in the National Guard to "control" people in my state, without our (elected by popular vote) governor's permission. Remember! Obama says that we need to be more like China!

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Mh hm..

What do you think would happen though if people protested that?.. lol..

Why, they'd be moved along. Directly into traffic maybe even.

There are three issues here; one of them sits firmly on the shoulders of the sheriff's department (or whichever department is responsible for these thugs) for the behavior of their police; one of them sits on the shoulders of the DNC; and the last sits on the shoulders of all who voted and didn't in America, as "we" are the ones who've voted in these assholes who vote on this shit. THEY voted in the Patriot Act, without fucking reading it! They voted in FISA, they vote in pay raises, they scratch backs, they have their backs scratched....

Yet collectively the people of the United States of Amnesia will not take personal responsibility, either for putting us collectively into this mess, or taking the collective steps necessary to get us OUT.

Milf, you might be interested in some of the writings and ideas of Andrew Bacevich.

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I own American Empire, great book.. though I have yet to get his other books- my reading list is like 20 pages long.. lol.. whenever I get one done 5 more get added... LOL..

I'm with you.. self responsibility needs to come back- whether we like it or not, we are responsible for everything our government does, we allow all of it to happen, in our name no less.

So, is there any doubt left in anyone's mind who posts in this forum that we are being led down the road to fascism? Based upon the posts made in this thread by Seamaiden and MILF that they surely see it.

Vi

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Liberals are people that will believe anything twice.

It is SO refreshing to see someone besides my husband (VTXDave is my hubster) understand and accept that. Even the people who actively vote usually deny any personal responsibility.

I just caught Mr. (is it Mr. or Colonel?) Bacevich on Bill Moyers Journal a couple weeks ago, and he really caught my attention. His demeanor, his words, his experiences. I should make myself a reading list, because I always forget what it was I wanted to read.

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There is no doubt in my mind, but clearly there are others who don't see it that way and who feel that the only reason we have the problems we do is because GW was voted in, twice. They fail to see that we stepped onto the slippery slope long, LONG before GW ever came into power, and honestly, in my estimation, had begun down that slope long before his birth.

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I think we are already knee deep in fascism, they're just now bringing the monster to the surface so you can see it in plain daylight.

I do believe it is Colonel Bacevich Sea..

It's really fuckin' sad to see people refuse to take responsibility, and it's not just for what our government does- they live their whole lives like this. They mess up and it's always someone else's fault, someone else always needs to pick up the pieces.. I'm honestly sick of it..