I hear you. It’s just hard to imagine they are that bad, or would stay in business when their seeds are more expensive than most, they have no problem replacing seeds, and they have all these guarantees. I guess I’m a bit butthurt cause I bought Sour Diesel from ILGM before I saw all these claims about them. I like all their guarantees, that’s the main reason I bought seeds from them. No one else offers the same guarantees, or you gotta submit a request within 60 days of purchase. I appreciate the help/advice. I guess I gotta do my research, cause I have no idea where to get seeds now.
Stay away from ILGM!!!!!!!
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CarolinaPothead
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Why would they post good info? Info is free. Their seeds arent necessarily, " shit" , theyre just inconsistent as hell. In the end, there are better and cheaper options. 10+10 sounds great until you find after 1 run that you dont like them and still have a bunch that you dont care to run. If somebody is that determined to use them then whatever. Do you. Yes most of it still gets you high but, if youre interested in quality and consistency of end product then eventually youll look somewhere else. If someone is going to use em then run photos. At least then if you find a good pheno you can clone it. Their autos ive tried are terpless.
It’s crazy people say they don’t sell the strains they claim. It makes no sense that they outline how to grow each specific strain, and give a lot of information about each strain. What would be the point of this if every strain they sell grows way differently than what they outline on their website?
Fallguy111
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Then stick with them. I’m just some bot on the internet, what do I know. And the rest of this community is in a conspiracy to take down ilgm.
MtRainDog
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It's not crazy at all. Example, Sour Diesel no longer exists in seed form. Clones would be your only option. If you buy Sour Diesel seeds online, you're getting something else that's not Sour Diesel. That's not unique to ILGM, it's just a fact. Many of the strains they sell are like that. OG Kush? same thing. And many others.
ILGM outsources their seed making to Spain (as do many, many others). In some cases they have legit clones to work with, often times they do not. They tend to favor plant vigor and what produces the most pollen. For example, they might have a mom that turns purple, produces a ton of pollen, and doesn't herm at all. Great, now we can reverse that mom and use it for our blueberry, purple punch, purple urkle, etc etc Point is you never know what you're getting exactly because these places are not 100% forthcoming about the genetics they're using.
I'm not trying to bash on ILGM. They're a bulk bean outfit. They are no different than RQS or Seedsman. All those places are like the Walmart of seeds. It is what it is.
If you want true genetics, you need to do your research. Either track the down the legit clone, or find breeders that have worked with the legit clone. This is why Bodhi and CSI are so popular around here, because we all know the clones they use are the legit real deals. At best the Euro breeders have by and large proven themselves untrustworthy regarding their genetics. It is well known.
You might find some great plants in ILGM seeds. Nothing wrong them and I have no reason to discourage you from buying ILGM seeds, but you should at least be armed with the truth so you can make an informed decision regarding the genetics you want in your garden.
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Davo68
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Check out New420 guy seeds
CarolinaPothead
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"Everytime i try to get out they pull me back in " lol. Im done with this thread anyway. You can lead a grower to ( or away from)a breeder but ultimately its their choice. If someone is determined to use this seller i say good luck! And good night! The only way you totally lose is to not grow. Peace out! " mike drop"
Aldous Snow
Active Member
It's really not that crazy, cannabis seeds are one of the easiest things in the world to "counterfeit". Think about it, they all look more or less the same. It's easy to slap a popular strain name on a little mylar bag and claim it's something desirable that the unassuming customer would want. Ex: Sour diesel is popular right now, or the memory OF sour diesel, so they take whatever seedstock they have and slap a sour diesel sticker on the pack, steal a couple pictures off another grower or seed distributor, add a lengthy strain description and bam, new buyers who aren't hip to how the cannabis seed industry works buy them thinking its the real deal. Here's the real kicker, MOST growers can't get their hands on the real deal cuts of the strains they want, so unless they're particularly astute and pay attention to others grow reviews how would they even know? Meanwhile if you grew the original clone next to the seeds you popped they'd look nothing alike, smell nothing alike, and generally speaking be completely different in almost every aspect. Always be weary of a seed company who isn't A: a verified seed dealer for a specific breeder, and B: any seed company that claims to have every desirable strain under the sun but has no publicly known head breeder. Ex: Bloom seed co, well known for Grape Cream Cake/Tropicana Cookies has Harry Palms, Archive seedbank, well known for Dosido and Face off og and Rainbow Belts has Fletcher, Csi Humboldt, well known for their old school clone only varieties and Obama Kush has Caleb aka the nspecta, Seed Junky genetics, well known for breeding Wedding Cake, Jealousy and Permanent Marker has J Beezy. You see, those of us in the know have an awareness of who bred the strains we enjoy, or who has a solid reputation for putting out quality seeds who may be working with certain strains we want. We don't just Google a strain name and pick the first bright shiny page that pops up on the screen with guarantees lol sometimes we even do sketchy things like sending straight up cash in an envelope with a piece of paper with an order number on it for a strain with no description or shiny pics, based solely on the reputation of the breeder we're buying from and how much we like the parent plants of said strain. Crazy right?! Lol
Spindle818
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It’s crazy that people can’t wrap their minds around this. They can just buy bulk white label seeds from Spain at less that 10 cents per seed and sell them to people that don’t know better for $100+ per pack. It’s a great business model if you have no conscience
leatherbackturtle420
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It's the same with CrapKing and Pacific Seed Bank. Many more out there just like them too.
Seed supreme ..never fails .
MtRainDog
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Do people find cup-winners in ILGM packs? No.
Does every pack of ILGM suck? No.
Does every pack of Bodhi or CSI slay? No.
Should you research the seed lines/clones you're interested in? Yes.
Are white label seeds worth it? You get what pay for.
Are expensive boutique seeds worth it? Maybe, but there's no guarantees in popping seeds.
Does every pack of ILGM suck? No.
Does every pack of Bodhi or CSI slay? No.
Should you research the seed lines/clones you're interested in? Yes.
Are white label seeds worth it? You get what pay for.
Are expensive boutique seeds worth it? Maybe, but there's no guarantees in popping seeds.
I just did a test with Premium Seeds and ILGM, and ILGM performed just fine. I do not like the soak method, and do not use it. When I didn't use a heat mat and domes I had bad outcomes (after 2019...before that i could start them outside in a pot and they all came up quickly). When I left the dome on too long I also had a bad outcome for some plants. The weather is different now than in 2018 and 2019, and the potting soil I use is more full of fungus gnats than ever before...and many other challenges...BUT I am trying to be fair with ILGM, and I don't think any of this is their fault. It is ONLY BLUE DREAM FEMINIZED (outdoor organic) for me though, so my experience isn't a very thorough run through of their supplies.
lazerbrain
Member
3 out of 10 seeds popped for me. Maui Wowie Sativa. Not good odds at all. It's been several days since I reached out through their website, still no answer. Will never shop with them again.
TheWholeTruth
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You would of been beter off getting nirvana maui wowie. Im sure lgm' maui wowie is just made from nirvanas.
leatherbackturtle420
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I see they still only sell the same lame shit they did 6 years ago. Haven't even added anything new from what I can tell. Grubby ass seedbank imo.
Use like North Atlantic Seed Co, Seedsman, seedsherenow, cannapot, Greenpoint Seeds, Neptune seed bank.
Plenty of good ones out there, but try to avoid the lame ass white label banks cause they're garbage.
Use like North Atlantic Seed Co, Seedsman, seedsherenow, cannapot, Greenpoint Seeds, Neptune seed bank.
Plenty of good ones out there, but try to avoid the lame ass white label banks cause they're garbage.
marzig
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I've had nothing but great results from ILGM in the four years I've been growing . All I grow are autos so I can't speak about their photos. Deliveries are usually within a week or less with excellent tracking data. I've never had any that have failed to sprout and only a few that didn't make it to chop. Zero complaints about flavor, potency, and yields and all have been better than the shit sold at local dispensaries near me.
The only complaint I have is different phenotypes. Mostly differences in plant structures, but nothing that I didn't enjoy smoking.
The only complaint I have is different phenotypes. Mostly differences in plant structures, but nothing that I didn't enjoy smoking.
I had the same issue with that company along with all the companies to be honest. I have bought seeds from at least six different seed banks. Every time I get seeds from every seed bank that I order from at least half of the seeds do not sprout or germinate. Then you have to go through hell trying to get your seeds replaced as they think you are stupid and do not know how to grow or germinate seeds. These companies make you jump through hoops before they want to replace the garbage seeds that they send you. I spent over $300 on seeds through the i49 seed bank, I ordered 30 auto flower seeds as I bought a packet that contained several different varieties of seeds. And out of the 30 seeds I bought only eight germinated and sprouted. I also bought four seats of regular marijuana seeds and out of the four Moby Dick seeds that I bought only two germinated and sprouted. Right now this company i49 is making me jump through hoops as they are telling me I need to send them pictures of how I germinate my seeds and then how I transplant the germinated seed into my growing medium. I have been growing for over 30 years and I know what I'm doing. If I didn't need the seeds then I wouldn't be buying from these companies it's just a shame that other people on this form experience the same thing that I do. These companies I believe are doing nothing but sending out old seeds and that's why they do not germinate and it does not matter how long you soak them in water the seeds are dead that they are sending us!!