DIY DWC Nutes

Cold$moke

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Oh shit. I hate brown roots too. I had thm with NPK RAW nutes. But, will only be using MC in one rez
Its all good but its a personal preference:)

I did consider them highly just used advanced for too long :)
Same thing with RAW. Good stuff but brown brown lol and spendy as advanced almost lol
 

churchhaze

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There cannot be an industry without pollution. The more I pollute, the more I produce. It’s not going into a municipal waste water system so it’s not so bad.
@Atomizer does have a point though. There's really no reason to be using that much P. Not only is it sub-optimal and more expensive (because you need more KH2PO4), it pollutes more than necessary. Of course, he probably although thinks my 60ppm is too high (I don't want to speak for him, but i know 60ppm P is high and atomizer seems to know his shit.)

Under 30ppm P, and you will notice slowed growth proportional to the size of the deficiency. Anything above 30ppm does nothing to improve growth.
 

churchhaze

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quick calc suggests there is only around 65ppm of N to go with the 205ppm of P and 327ppm of K, Mg 59 and Ca 85.
N and Ca are too low. K is too high. Mg is probably fine.

My guess is he will see bigger yields by using more calcium nitrate and less potassium phosphate. (with the side benefit of less phosphate runoff)
 

HydroEnthused

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Alright. This is the part where I eat a big ol piece of humble pie. The real reason why I posted the formula is because even though it works better than anything I’ve bought I was never sure if it was the best thing for DWC. 4 years ago (last time I was on RIU until recently) nobody except for FATMAN even had their own formula so nobody critiqued it.
Churchhaze...good sir ... I give you the run of my 3-44 gallon Rubbermaid brute stock tanks (also a 32 gallon for the KOH).
I use an auto doser to prep the 9-54 gallon water tanks. Give me a nute recipe for each of the 3-44 gallon tanks. I’m assuming we’ll keep the KOH at 10% so I won’t change that one.
I’m harvesting 30 Reserva Privada SD next week and I’ll be starting another 30 1 week after that.
Temps are going to be slightly warmer by the end of flowering for the next run but not by that much.
Their even going into the same exact room.
I don’t post pics but I don’t lie either. I have a feeling your #15 is gonna work a lot better than mine. Should I run the #15?
 

Atomizer

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I`d like to see a pic of his leaves, apart from the lack of N for veg, the high levels of P will play havoc with Ca, Cu, Zn and Fe availability.
 

HydroEnthused

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I`d like to see a pic of his leaves, apart from the lack of N for veg, the high levels of P will play havoc with Ca, Cu, Zn and Fe availability.
I think your right, but I still get pretty high yields. But you got me thinking there’s definitely room for improvement.
Yes, my leaves do get fucked up. I’m gonna harvest 30 Reserva Sour Diesel next week. I’ll tally the yield.
I’m starting another 30 of the same in that room 2 weeks from now. I’ll run Churchhaze solution #15 with that one. I’m feeling very humble. I hope the side by side proves me wrong.
I don’t post pics but I don’t lie either. The last thing I want to do is pass misinformation. Even though my mix is off it has yielded very well for me. But I’m starting g to think that if I improve my nute regimen I’m finally gonna break the glass ceiling. Thank you to Atomizer and Churchhaze. Also, rkymtnman for his sense of humor. I’m really liking this forum.
 
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Cold$moke

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Im sorry im not a doubter just visually interested;)

Reading i have done much of . seeing is believing

And dont say its because of security issues cause guys post pics of HUGE ops ..

Not callin you a liar im just callin ;)
 

Cold$moke

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I sure do , look up @Heisengrow dude go's big :)
In one of those states your talkin about ;) well much bigger then me at least lol

Look up youtube i think the guys name is mango
He does WAREHOUSE grows lol not sure if hes in cali though
 

Heisengrow

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This thread is worthless without pics.
I been busy finishing up my building.that shit is gonna be state of the,art hydro city.quarter pound colas and shit FTW.
I'e always stayed away from DIY cocktails.the reason I run RDWC is for simplicity and ease of operations.got enough other bullshit in a grow room to deal with besides mixing cocktails.
I run gen hydro 2 part sterile res and can pull 2 grams a watt all day.
 

churchhaze

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This is what I currently use. Keep in mind it's for hard water, not RO, so you'd probably still have to tweak it. (maybe even more calcium)


But I'm sure you've already figured out that it's hard to get this wrong. Just about any combination of the salts you bought will take a plant from start to finish.
 

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churchhaze

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I'e always stayed away from DIY cocktails.the reason I run RDWC is for simplicity and ease of operations.got enough other bullshit in a grow room to deal with besides mixing cocktails.
I can kind of understand this. I've always been interested in designing my own nutrients, but it should be obvious that not everyone wants to do it. Honestly, I'd be more likely to go commercial selling nutes than weed. (probably not)

That being said, No disrespect but I can't understand why so many people come on these DIY threads to advise against it. That's kind of trolling, isn't it? (not like it's just you doing it..) I guess you were called in about something unrelated, but generally we get the 2 cents of someone who's never even tried.

I agree about the pics though... One day I will show everyone the plants I grow with my mixes just to help show it's a viable choice, but it's probably not a good idea right now. Until then, you're going to have to accept that plants like N.
 
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HydroEnthused

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This thread is worthless without pics.
I been busy finishing up my building.that shit is gonna be state of the,art hydro city.quarter pound colas and shit FTW.
I'e always stayed away from DIY cocktails.the reason I run RDWC is for simplicity and ease of operations.got enough other bullshit in a grow room to deal with besides mixing cocktails.
I run gen hydro 2 part sterile res and can pull 2 grams a watt all day.
Thanks for chiming in Heisengrow. If you say you’re getting 2 gpw, than I’m checking out those YouTube vids. I can learn from you.
 

HydroEnthused

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This is what I currently use. Keep in mind it's for hard water, not RO, so you'd probably still have to tweak it. (maybe even more calcium)


But I'm sure you've already figured out that it's hard to get this wrong. Just about any combination of the salts you bought will take a plant from start to finish.
You’re adding ammonium nitrate ? I just want to make sure about the N(NH4+) source. The rest of it is easy enough for me to reverse engineer.
That Heisengrow gets 2 gpw? He can troll this thread all he wants as far as I’m concerned. Dayumm! I wanna see what this guy is doing. Even if he’s slightly exaggerating he’s gotta be pulling something close to that if he’s that confident. I do not mind being nay said by masters. If Cold$moke recommended him, he’s prolly no joke.
I check my pride in at the door and I will humbly beg this guy to let me know what he’s doing to get that, if he hasn’t posted it already.
 

rkymtnman

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I run gen hydro 2 part
just to clarify, you run the GH flora micro and bloom ? or the newer GH flora duo? if it's the flora duo, i'm curious what your mix ratio was for bloom? i tried it and always had some issues in bloom, veg worked fine.
 

Atomizer

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You’re adding ammonium nitrate ? I just want to make sure about the N(NH4+) source.
The NO3, NH4,P,K and Ca values can be had with the basics, Calcinit, MKP and KNO3. Magnesium sulphate (epsom) for the Mg. Buying ammonium nitrate will likely get you flagged these days ;)
 
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