Marc Emery was right; Julian Fantino was wrong

gb123

Well-Known Member
I hope fantino goes down hard for his bullshit ..

In September 2011, Conservative MP and former OPP commissioner Julian Fantino stood in the House of Commons to urge MPs to vote for the Conservatives’ Safe Streets and Communities Act, which, among other things, increased mandatory minimum sentences for marijuana offences, including six months for possessing six plants.

“It is critically important to law enforcement officers if we want them to do the job that they are mandated to do,” he said. “It is critical to the courts and it is critical to society, especially to vulnerable people.”

At the time Fantino spoke those words, Marc Emery was living in the Medium Federal Correctional Institution in Yazoo County, Louisiana, doing five years for selling marijuana seeds through the mail, part of a decades-long crusade against the laws that made it illegal to grow and smoke marijuana.



I believe Emery was right about marijuana and Fantino was wrong, and it seems that Fantino now has had a change of heart, because last month he announced that he plans to sell medical marijuana in a business he founded with former RCMP deputy commissioner Raf Souccar.

Emery, who finished his sentence in 2014 and returned to Canada, is not able to enter the legal marijuana business because of his criminal convictions. On Monday, he and his wife, Jodie Emery, will appear in a Toronto courtroom where they will plead guilty to marijuana charges laid after the police busted marijuana stores they were running in Ontario and British Columbia. They will have to pay large fines.

How large? “You’re not allowed to tell the amount, but you can say an enormous, unprecedentedly large amount,” Marc said in an interview last week.

READ MORE: Are Marc and Jodie Emery bad for the weed movement?

It seems absurd that the Emerys, who have spent years fighting the unjust laws against marijuana, in and out of prison, can’t now sell the product, while Fantino, who once compared marijuana to murder, is going to cash in.

But Marc is philosophical about it all. He says he actually enjoyed much of his time in prison, where he read hundreds of books, improved his musical skills and got along easily with the other inmates, often helping them as a “jailhouse lawyer.”

“I have almost no negative memories of my five years in prison,” he says. “My biggest regret is all the money and energy I expended for Jodie to visit me.”

Jodie flew down to see him 81 times. She found the experience difficult, largely because of what she saw families of other prisoners go through. She hated the emotional scene at the end of visiting time at Yazoo, when the wives and children of prisoners would line up and wait to be let out.

“You’re standing there looking at your loved one, all the way across this concrete room and the men are all acting brave and you can’t really talk because you’re across the room. And little kids will run across the room, and go, ‘Daddy Daddy’ and jump in his arms and come running back. And you see these moms, the wives and the mothers of the inmates, and they have their backs turned to the inmates and they’re crying and they don’t want to stand there and have their loved one watch them cry, so they turn their back to their loved one while they wait to get out. And the little kids are like, ‘Mommy don’t cry. Mommy don’t cry.’”

Jodie Emery is a tender-hearted, idealistic person. She wants to change the laws that keep fathers away from their children because of drug laws that are unjust, particularly to non-white people, who are much more likely to be incarcerated.

“If the government told me that I could, like, never smoke pot again, and never be in the pot business, but they would never arrest anyone else again, and nobody would lose their kids, and nobody would lose their job for failing a drug test, and nobody would be demonized or persecuted for pot, I would take that in a second,” she says. “Because it’s not about me, it’s not about Marc. I want to help all these people who don’t have a face and a name. They need help.”

The Emerys will likely eventually find a way to participate in the legal marijuana business—using their high profile to boost the business prospects of a licensed producer after pot is legalized next summer—but the immediate future is uncertain.

Their fines will put them deep in debt. Marc made a lot of money on the mail-order seed business until the Americans locked him up, but the Emerys say he gave it all away to activists.

The DEA backs his story. When they announced his arrest, they noted that he had “channelled” hundreds of thousands of dollars to “marijuana legalization groups active in the United States and Canada.”

It’s not clear how what kind of role either of them will be able to play in running their business—Cannabis Culture—after they plead guilty.

Meanwhile, Fantino and a lot of other people who busted marijuana users could soon be profiting from legalization.

Jodie has been making a list of former senior police who are taking part in marijuana businesses. There are 17 names on that list.

“I get feelings of outrage and disgust because of the unfairness of it,” she says.

The worst in her mind is Fantino. “It’s somebody who literally voted against, campaigned against, fought against any sort of law reform, and only when, through government coercion, people would be forced to buy from only a few people, he was willing to be one of those people to cash in.”

(Fantino, by the way, says that he hasn’t changed his mind about recreational marijuana, merely medical marijuana.)

People in the legal business—people who can get security clearances that the Liberals’ legislation demands—say the Emerys present a challenge to licensed producers, because of their strident activism.

In this period—what Marc calls the “purgatory between prohibition and legalization”—the well-connected corporate entrepreneurs in the new weed businesses can’t afford to be associated with the wild-eyed activists who were willing to go to prison for what they thought was right.

But they were right all along, and Fantino was wrong, and that will only ever get clearer as time goes by.
 

OldMedUser

Well-Known Member
This whole LP ownership reeks of insider trading and graft and we all should be raising hell and demanding an investigation!

It's so obvious and in your face that I can't understand why the activists that are now getting shut out aren't storming the hill with major protests and calls for investigation. Herr Harper is likely rolling in kick-back money stashed away in the Caymans.

Prohibition 2.0. What a f'n joke and I hope the idiots who voted for Trudeau are hanging their heads in shame.

Don't need to be in a 3rd world country for corruption to rear it's ugly head.

Disgusting!

:peace:
 

VIANARCHRIS

Well-Known Member
This whole LP ownership reeks of insider trading and graft and we all should be raising hell and demanding an investigation!

It's so obvious and in your face that I can't understand why the activists that are now getting shut out aren't storming the hill with major protests and calls for investigation. Herr Harper is likely rolling in kick-back money stashed away in the Caymans.

Prohibition 2.0. What a f'n joke and I hope the idiots who voted for Trudeau are hanging their heads in shame.

Don't need to be in a 3rd world country for corruption to rear it's ugly head.

Disgusting!

:peace:
I'm not so sure I should be hanging my head in shame - and I'm certainly smarter than the idiots that voted for Harper or Angry Beard.. What were the choices? Harper who said of legalization: "not on my watch" or the NDP who would never legalize but would bring in decriminalization in order to use cannabis smokers as a revenue stream.
Which one of them would have been better? At least with this shit show, we won't have future generations of kids with criminal records for smoking a joint or growing a plant.
You and I both know the LP system is crooked as fuck but the problem is convincing others. I know I've tried....but it needs to be thousands of us screaming the same thing or you are just ignored.
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From the conflict commissioner....

"We have reviewed your email dated November 15, 2017 in which you express concerns of insider deals concerning too many former government and civil servants occupying top positions in the new cannabis 'industry', for it to be a coincidence.


The Commissioner administers the Conflict of Interest Act (Act), in respect of public office holders as defined in section 2 of the Act, which reads as follows:

public office holder means

(a) a minister of the Crown, a minister of state or a parliamentary secretary;

(a.1) the Chief Electoral Officer;

(b) a member of ministerial staff;

(c) a ministerial adviser;

(d) a Governor in Council appointee, other than the following persons, namely,

(i) a lieutenant governor,

(ii) officers and staff of the Senate, House of Commons and Library of Parliament,

(iii) a person appointed or employed under the Public Service Employment Act who is a head of mission as defined in subsection 15(1) of the Department of Foreign Affairs, Trade and Development Act,

(iv) a judge who receives a salary under the Judges Act,

(v) a military judge within the meaning of subsection 2(1) of the National Defence Act,

(vi) a Deputy Commissioner of the Royal Canadian Mounted Police, and

(vii) a member of the National Security and Intelligence Committee of Parliamentarians;

(d.01) the Parliamentary Budget Officer;

(d.1) a ministerial appointee whose appointment is approved by the Governor in Council; and

(e) a person or a member of a class of persons if the person or class of persons is designated under subsection 62.1(1) or 62.2(1). (titulaire de charge publique)


Most of the 25 individuals you have identified are not and never were subject to the Act. Only two fall within the definition of public office holder, namely Mr. Raf Souccar, presently a part-time public office holder, and Mr. Julian Fantino, a former reporting public office holder.


While pursuant to section 45 of the Act, the Commissioner may initiate an examination where she has reason to believe that a public office holder or a former public office holder has contravened any provision of the Act, your email contains no information nor any specific allegation in respect of how Mr. Souccar or Mr. Fantino may have contravened any of their obligations under the Act.


Therefore, Commissioner Dawson is of the view that she does not have reason to believe that a contravention occurred in relation to the matter you raised."


Best regards,





Philippe Joly



Enquêteur principal / Senior investigator

Commissariat aux conflits d'intérêts et à l'éthique / Office of the Conflict of Interest and Ethics Commissioner

66 rue Slater, 22e étage / 66 Slater Street, 22nd Floor

Ottawa, Ontario K1A 0A6

Téléphone : 613-996-6012 Télécopieur / Fax : 613-995-7308

ciec-ccie.parl.gc.ca : [email protected]
 

OldMedUser

Well-Known Member
I'm not so sure I should be hanging my head in shame - and I'm certainly smarter than the idiots that voted for Harper or Angry Beard.. What were the choices? Harper who said of legalization: "not on my watch" or the NDP who would never legalize but would bring in decriminalization in order to use cannabis smokers as a revenue stream.
Which one of them would have been better? At least with this shit show, we won't have future generations of kids with criminal records for smoking a joint or growing a plant.
You and I both know the LP system is crooked as fuck but the problem is convincing others. I know I've tried....but it needs to be thousands of us screaming the same thing or you are just ignored.
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From the conflict commissioner....

"We have reviewed your email dated November 15, 2017 in which you express concerns of insider deals concerning too many former government and civil servants occupying top positions in the new cannabis 'industry', for it to be a coincidence.


The Commissioner administers the Conflict of Interest Act (Act), in respect of public office holders as defined in section 2 of the Act, which reads as follows:

public office holder means

(a) a minister of the Crown, a minister of state or a parliamentary secretary;

(a.1) the Chief Electoral Officer;

(b) a member of ministerial staff;

(c) a ministerial adviser;

(d) a Governor in Council appointee, other than the following persons, namely,

(i) a lieutenant governor,

(ii) officers and staff of the Senate, House of Commons and Library of Parliament,

(iii) a person appointed or employed under the Public Service Employment Act who is a head of mission as defined in subsection 15(1) of the Department of Foreign Affairs, Trade and Development Act,

(iv) a judge who receives a salary under the Judges Act,

(v) a military judge within the meaning of subsection 2(1) of the National Defence Act,

(vi) a Deputy Commissioner of the Royal Canadian Mounted Police, and

(vii) a member of the National Security and Intelligence Committee of Parliamentarians;

(d.01) the Parliamentary Budget Officer;

(d.1) a ministerial appointee whose appointment is approved by the Governor in Council; and

(e) a person or a member of a class of persons if the person or class of persons is designated under subsection 62.1(1) or 62.2(1). (titulaire de charge publique)


Most of the 25 individuals you have identified are not and never were subject to the Act. Only two fall within the definition of public office holder, namely Mr. Raf Souccar, presently a part-time public office holder, and Mr. Julian Fantino, a former reporting public office holder.


While pursuant to section 45 of the Act, the Commissioner may initiate an examination where she has reason to believe that a public office holder or a former public office holder has contravened any provision of the Act, your email contains no information nor any specific allegation in respect of how Mr. Souccar or Mr. Fantino may have contravened any of their obligations under the Act.


Therefore, Commissioner Dawson is of the view that she does not have reason to believe that a contravention occurred in relation to the matter you raised."


Best regards,





Philippe Joly



Enquêteur principal / Senior investigator

Commissariat aux conflits d'intérêts et à l'éthique / Office of the Conflict of Interest and Ethics Commissioner

66 rue Slater, 22e étage / 66 Slater Street, 22nd Floor

Ottawa, Ontario K1A 0A6

Téléphone : 613-996-6012 Télécopieur / Fax : 613-995-7308

ciec-ccie.parl.gc.ca : [email protected]
They wouldn't be politicians if they didn't know how to twist the truth to their advantage and walk that fine line between permissible within the guidelines and outright criminal activity. Side-stepping and double-speak are basic courses in Politics 101. :)

While likely legal within the twisted laws and rules THEY set up it's morally repugnant to the outside observer with any inkling of what's really going on with "legality". Still arresting and convicting young people or anyone highlights their insincerity and adherence to the status quo.

Makes me want to :spew:

:peace:
 

OldMedUser

Well-Known Member
not surprised. I hope Marc and Jodie land on their feet. It's a shame how the cookie crumbles. If criminals aren't allowed to participate in the legal cannabis market perhaps we criminals should vote with our dollars going forward.
I happen to work for Marc and Jodie as a volunteer Admin known as LabRat at their CC forums. Got a signed poster of Jodie for part of my prize for winning the first Member of the Month contest we had back in '14 when I was still just a member. The pic that was the centerfold in issue #56 of the now defunct CC print mag. Still haven't found a frame for it. lol

This is a pic I took of my issue 56. My poster is rolled up with no crease.

Jodie_Issue56.jpg

And some of the poster I got. Had to chop the top as she put my real name up there.

Jodie_Issue56_signed.jpg

Another hot one of Jodie backing Ron Paul for prez.

Jodie4RonPaul.jpg

I always wondered what Marc saw in her. I wonder no more! Smart too.

:peace:
 

legalcanada

Well-Known Member
not surprised. I hope Marc and Jodie land on their feet. It's a shame how the cookie crumbles. If criminals aren't allowed to participate in the legal cannabis market perhaps we criminals should vote with our dollars going forward.
you mean you were ever planning on giving them a dollar to begin with?? they're fucking crooks the whole lot!! it's disgusting how they can expect people to pay $10 a gram when their cost is $1 or less and youre buying straight from the producer!!!!

now they want to add in 2-3 more middlemen who want a chunk of your money too for doing nothing but interfering!! FUCK THEM ALL we need to do something more than show them with our wallets, like civil disobedience or vandalism (but only that wastes private dollars and not public)
 

gb123

Well-Known Member
simply show them where theyre wrong
its an easy chore when its all 100% true!

disobedience is a GIVEN.... has been for the last 100 years...
No one will go to jail
Its all scare tactics knowing THEY LOST BEFORE THEY STARTED and have no other way of TRYING control their fuck up!
 
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