1.4 million illegals working under stolen Social Security numbers

twostrokenut

twostrokenut

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SneekyNinja said:
No, don't be so ridiculously vague.

It would mean that normal people are completely priced out of healthy food (which is already more expensive than the reconstituted cheap crap already available).
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it's the true cost. what do you want to do about it, lower interest rates below zero?

lower the min wage?
 
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fdd2blk

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SneekyNinja said:
What would happen to food prices for everybody then?

And most countries actually allow "guest workers" for essential jobs like harvesting foodstuffs.
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I thought raising people's pay wouldn't cause an increase in the price of Big Macs.

"We want a $15 minimum wage."

"We can't pay ILLEGALS more because then lettuce would be $10 a head."

Which is it?

A "guest worker" is documented. An "ILLEGAL worker" is not. People shouldn't be here working ILLEGALLY. Let them stay and work, I don't care. Just make sure to set up a program that documents everyone.
 
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fdd2blk

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SneekyNinja said:
No, don't be so ridiculously vague.

It would mean that normal people are completely priced out of healthy food (which is already more expensive than the reconstituted cheap crap already available).
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This is a complete contradiction for the argument of increasing minimum wage.
 
SneekyNinja

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fdd2blk said:
I thought raising people's pay wouldn't cause an increase in the price of Big Macs.

"We want a $15 minimum wage."

"We can't pay ILLEGALS more because then lettuce would be $10 a head."

Which is it?

A "guest worker" is documented. An "ILLEGAL worker" is not. People shouldn't be here working ILLEGALLY. Let them stay and work, I don't care. Just make sure to set up a program that documents everyone.
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Ok so you pay farmhands $15 an hour and tell me it doesn't increase the price of lettuce.

We're talking a primary industry where they operate close to the margin anyway, not McDonald's where there's layers and layers of inefficiency, waste and profit taking.
 
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fdd2blk

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SneekyNinja said:
Ok so you pay farmhands $15 an hour and tell me it doesn't increase the price of lettuce.

We're talking a primary industry where they operate close to the margin anyway, not McDonald's where there's layers and layers of inefficiency, waste and profit taking.
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"Raising minimum wage does not cause an increased cost in consumer goods. It actually boosts the economy."

I'm not the one who made the claim, I'm just putting out this reminder.
 
SneekyNinja

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fdd2blk said:
"Raising minimum wage does not cause an increased cost in consumer goods. It actually boosts the economy."

I'm not the one who made the claim, I'm just putting out this reminder.
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It's not the same thing and I know you're smart enough to know it's the same thing.
 
SneekyNinja

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fdd2blk said:
It's the exact same thing.

"Everyone deserves a living wage, except ILLEGAL farm workers."

Does that sound right? :?
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When did I say everyone deserves a living wage?

I support the idea that everyone gets UBI and then whoever wants to can work on top of it.

This in theory would stimulate employment and the economy generally.
 
Sir Napsalot

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The Burlington Northern used to couple up empty boxcars with the doors open during the apple harvest in Washington so pickers could get to the orchards, don't know if they still do that though.
 
Fogdog

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Enigma said:
The victor writes the history book, the defeated are dead.

I'll break it down to a mush that you can digest.

The French would rather you believe Wikipedia instead of them admitting they were more concerned with colonialism than protecting their homeland.

Slaughtering innocents doesn't sound very appealing when that is exactly what the Nazis were doing.
blah, blah, blah, west is worst!!!!

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SneekyNinja said:
Especially when he's so easily demonstrably wrong all the time...

You always know with the capital T on truth that they're gonna say something pretty fucking retarded.
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I read his laundry list of historical facts. I didn't see any falsehoods there. The list can be described as biased to bolster a thinly disguised pre-conceived notion. Not a fair representation of facts but ones cherry picked to suit.
 
st0wandgrow

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SneekyNinja

SneekyNinja

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Fogdog said:
I read his laundry list of historical facts. I didn't see any falsehoods there. The list can be described as biased to bolster a thinly disguised pre-conceived notion. Not a fair representation of facts but ones cherry picked to suit.
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I can't remember the specifics but I'm pretty sure several of his notions were disproven and the rest were complete misrepresentations.
 
Justin-case

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st0wandgrow said:
No I don't.



Why you are! Buckys lil lap dog. :lol:



The great state of Michigan. I didn't vote for Trump or Hillary. Both terrible choices!
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I rest my case. We have you to thank for a trump presidency, DF.

I didn't realize being a selfish a- hole was part of being a real progressive.
 
Enigma

Enigma

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Fogdog said:
I read his laundry list of historical facts. I didn't see any falsehoods there. The list can be described as biased to bolster a thinly disguised pre-conceived notion. Not a fair representation of facts but ones cherry picked to suit.
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Facts.

Just facts.

Split your forces and you are weak, combine forces you are strong.

If everything I said was true how is it wrong?

It is interesting to note you believe facts can be biased, hahahaha!

Check it all, cross reference, do your own homework.

Buy a Ford!

Heh!

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