FU DNC
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ArcticGranite
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Perez is pretty mainstream. Wonder if he'll veer from identity politics and virtue signaling. DNC's had plenty of experience losing lately.
Justin-case
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Justin-case
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Wow,Is quoting pedophiles a hobby of yours?
UncleBuck
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good job on virtue signalling how much you hate virtue signalling, virtue signaler.
go crawl back to your nazi cop enclave now.
Padawanbater2
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That signals the end of the Democratic party as we currently know it. Progressives will not support the Democratic party under Perez' leadership. They just lost an entire bloc of voters, way to unite against the Trump regime.
UncleBuck
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he named keith ellison immediately as deputy chair. infighting is not progressive, nor is stamping your feet like a petulant child. they will make a great team.
Padawanbater2
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I suppose this is just a coincidence, too: DNC Members Vote Down Corporate Money Ban
"ATLANTA ― Democratic National Committee members on Saturday voted down a resolution that would have reinstated former President Barack Obama’s ban on corporate political action committee donations to the party.
Resolution 33, introduced by DNC Vice Chair Christine Pelosi, would also have forbidden “registered, federal corporate lobbyists” from serving as “DNC chair-appointed, at-large members.”"
"Obama, as the party’s presidential nominee in 2008, banned contributions from political action committees, as well as from lobbyists. Former DNC chair Debbie Wasserman Schultz quietly lifted the ban ahead of the 2016 election.
Bob Mulholland, DNC member from Chico, California, was one of the bill’s most vocal opponents and helped lead a successful effort to table the resolution for further review on Friday. He argued that the ban would handicap Democrats at a time when they need all the resources they can muster.
“Just a reminder that Republicans control all three branches of the government right now ― all three branches. We do not have a president in the White House,” Mulholland said. “I am not a member of Mother Theresa’s sisters organization; I am a member of the Democratic Party.”
New York DNC Member Stuart Appelbaum, a co-sponsor of the resolution, insisted that it was crucial for voters to believe the DNC is accountable to them, not corporate interests.
“This resolution provides us an important opportunity to send a message to the people of this country as to our values,” said Appelbaum, president of the Retail, Wholesale and Department Store Union.
“It is not something new: We operated this way for seven years!” Appelbaum added, referring to the Obama-era ban."
"ATLANTA ― Democratic National Committee members on Saturday voted down a resolution that would have reinstated former President Barack Obama’s ban on corporate political action committee donations to the party.
Resolution 33, introduced by DNC Vice Chair Christine Pelosi, would also have forbidden “registered, federal corporate lobbyists” from serving as “DNC chair-appointed, at-large members.”"
"Obama, as the party’s presidential nominee in 2008, banned contributions from political action committees, as well as from lobbyists. Former DNC chair Debbie Wasserman Schultz quietly lifted the ban ahead of the 2016 election.
Bob Mulholland, DNC member from Chico, California, was one of the bill’s most vocal opponents and helped lead a successful effort to table the resolution for further review on Friday. He argued that the ban would handicap Democrats at a time when they need all the resources they can muster.
“Just a reminder that Republicans control all three branches of the government right now ― all three branches. We do not have a president in the White House,” Mulholland said. “I am not a member of Mother Theresa’s sisters organization; I am a member of the Democratic Party.”
New York DNC Member Stuart Appelbaum, a co-sponsor of the resolution, insisted that it was crucial for voters to believe the DNC is accountable to them, not corporate interests.
“This resolution provides us an important opportunity to send a message to the people of this country as to our values,” said Appelbaum, president of the Retail, Wholesale and Department Store Union.
“It is not something new: We operated this way for seven years!” Appelbaum added, referring to the Obama-era ban."
Padawanbater2
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Right, they feel they need to placate progressives, Ellison has no power as deputy chair. It's a purely political move made by Perez to try to get progressives on board.
Watch what happens to the Democratic party and remember these words when they get handed their ass in 2018 and Trump wins again in 2020.
UncleBuck
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you are taking this way too hard. it's a fucking symbolic position.
Padawanbater2
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Why would anyone care about symbolism when Republicans are hard at work destroying our country and there is currently no real resistance from anyone in the Democratic political establishment against it?
UncleBuck
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why are you relying on the establishment? you hate the establishment. you think tom perez, a renowned civil rights lawyer, is somehow "the establishment".
grow the fuck up already. perez and ellison are clearly a united team in their efforts at this point. but they could both be replaced by adorable baby hippos and nothing would really change.
Fogdog
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Exactly so. The DNC provides infrastructure so that presidential candidates don't have to burn campaign money to duplicate clerical and IT work. It is not important during off-presidential elections.
One of the hallmarks of a good administrator is they DON'T fuck up and become the center of attention (ahem, DWS). Sounds like he's been doing a good administrative job as labor sec.
Fogdog
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Padawanbater2
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Like Joe Manchin's support for every single Trump cabinet pick?
Or Cory Booker's rejection of Bernie Sanders bill that would have made drugs cheaper for Americans?
UncleBuck
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here is my comprehensive checklist that i am looking for in my DNC chair:
1) not a fascist puppet of a hostile foreign government
Padawanbater2
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https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/congress-trump-score/
There's your "resistance", Manchin agrees with Trump 73.7% of the time, Heitkamp agrees with Trump 63.2% of the time
Fuck these people
There's your "resistance", Manchin agrees with Trump 73.7% of the time, Heitkamp agrees with Trump 63.2% of the time
Fuck these people
UncleBuck
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his entire cabinet had the numbers to get in anyway and manchin is up for reelection in a deeply red state next year.
and booker voted against a NON-BINDING resolution that was purely symbolic, while voting in favor of an actual amendment which would lower drug prices, along with all 13 other democrats who voted against the non-binding resolution.
the amendment failed on party lines. we should be pounding the GOP to death with this, not cannibalizing each other without understanding these very simple details first.
UncleBuck
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heitkamp is up for reelection in north dakota next year. of course she is trying to present herself as a "compromise candidate", it's a deeply red state.
all cabinet appointments need is 51 votes to get through, democrats are literally powerless to stop any of them unless they get republican help. so of course the red state dems are gonna try to placate their base.
this is politics 101.
Fogdog
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"no real" (snicker)
So, Manchin represents the Democratic Party? He represents a rural California district. I mean, duh, he's not a flaming left winger. The Democratic party needs to make room for more than Sanders and his supporters. We need blue dog Democrats who I guarantee you won't like if any progress in red states is to be made.
Bernie's bill was DOA based upon the majority held in the Senate by the GOP. Was I happy with Booker on his vote? No. But his vote against it was his, not the entire Democratic Senate caucus's. Nor was it Perez's.
The DNC is important in an administrative function that ought to be run by a competent administrator. One of the criticisms of having Ellison as head is he's a sitting Congressman and has no business dividing his attention to run the DNC. Having him involved but not responsible for the daily goings on at the DNC is a good thing.