Trying to quit

Writing this all out may help,

I was addicted to opiates of all kinds for about 7 years, gross I know.
Then I found kratom and managed to stop all prescriptions and replace with k ratom.. I will say that kratom has helped me a ton, fixed a lot of issues I was having and made me feel better about myself since it is just plant leaves.

It's bèen about 2 years now on a steady dose of kratom and I want to quit, it's hard, it's the first and last thing I do each day. I never went through a withdraw when I quit the pills so I feel likeI've been putting it off now for almost a decade and I'm quit scared.

Anyway, to anyone out there kratom helps a ton, much better than suboxone or methadone in my opinikn but it is the same in that your replacing drugs with drugs. The withdraws can't be as bad, I do not know but that's what I've convinced myself.

This is my attempt to quit, and to try and help anyone else who may be addicted.. this is my last week I've been try it to taper off but I have no self control so the last two weeks I've tired have been unsuccesfull, so here goes number 3 ... share your story, it may help someone of just any advice or words of wisdom

you may not be able to do it on your own. you said you have no self control and you have been relying on that crutch for a long time. have you considered checking into a rehab center. with medical support and follow up therapy you may be able to get clean. find a center that treats co-occurring conditions. 56% of addicts have an underlying mental illness the drugs may be masking and if that is not treated as well the chance of recovery is almost 0

If this doesn't work then yes that is going to be the next step I'm going to burn some of my vacation time at work and just really go for it,

I think the main thing is going to be for me not to have access to anything , when I have anything is when I just do it..

Plus I do think me being in my own environment and being able to still do the things I usually do will help keep my mind off things and get me into a new routine.

Me and another buddy are both in the same boat and my fiancee knows what's up too so I'll have support of others, it really just comes down to wanting to stop, I've never really wanted to honestly, but I am at the point now that I know i want it, I'm going to continue to update hopefully and just note how and what's happening, I am super happy I stopped the pills almost two years ago now it's just a matter of finishing the job

Anybody else going through or gone through a similar situation feel free to share what helped you

I heard of kratom, but can't help there sorry. My girlfriend and I used to be heroin users, been clean for just about 3.5yr. My girlfriend and I have been on methadone ever since and it's been very hard getting off of. (imagine heroin withdrawal but worse, and potentially months long believe it or not.)

It's difficult man, but when you're done imagine how you'll feel? Do you work out? Healthy?

I know the half life on them are pretty long, that is rough but the 3.5 years is still huge it really is so congrats to you guys
I don't work out, but consider myself pretty healthy.. I know when I completely switched to only taking kratom I felt so much better all around, it's just a leaf and what ever else I told myself.
I still stand by it for the most part and glad I did the switch but lately I've been feeling like straight shit in the morning back hurting and irritated, and a list of other things
I'm getting married at the end of the year and started thinking about the honeymoon and how I'm afraid to fly and bring with me at least 2 or 3 ounces of green powdered leaf on the flight lol or across the boarder.
Luckily I don't think physically I'll go through too much in comparison but the mental side of it is what's got me

Work is like my trigger ... i don't mind it when I'm high, 10 or 12 hour days 6 days a week is usuialy not awesome but not a problem but I'm a ffraid to not have anything and try to work even 8 hour days, and I like my job for the most part

So sry this turned into a whole rant this friday marks the end of my taper schedule .. my harvest is dry and vacation days are set .. Luckily it's still winter here too I'll keep posting with some updates or just when I feel like I'm about to go insane lol

Hey man, I feel your pain, its not fun going through withdrawals at all. As an opiate addict myself, I totally understand what your going through and every opiate addict have similar stories. One thing I came to realize is its almost impossible to quit on your own. You need to be humble, and just be glad you are where you are, and that you've had some clean time off opiates. Now, as far as getting off kratom, what is that exactly? I've had clean time before and a surgery threw me back in the hole, but I haven't used opiates in over a year. I've been on suboxones and im weaning down now, I'm down to 2mg a day and soon I plan on getting totally off them and getting back to the vivatrol shot. It's an opiate blocker so if I did opiates with the shot in my system it would totally block the effects that opiates give you and it helps with cravings. You get the shot once a month, it doesn't make you feel anything, it's just a blocker and if you stop getting the shot you don't get sick like methadone, suboxones, etc... I found the shot to work for me the best, but at the same time you gotta do therapy too, group therapy, one on one therapy, meetings, whatever fits you but you gotta do something. And check into your mental health, because i didnt think i had mental issues, just thought it was from drugs and i started taking prozac and its helped me so much in so many different aspects its unbelievable. Bordism is the worst for addicts, stay away from people, places , things, get a hobby like exercising. You gotta wanna do it yourself, not for anybody else. Take time off work if you can, cause that will cause a relapse before you even give yourself a chance. It's not easy man, good luck to you!

Keep your chin up buddy. I found cannabis to be a great help with coming off of opiates. I was a heroin addict for 10 years and a suboxone addict for 5 years after that. I finally got tired of being chained to the drugs so I locked myself in my room with a few ounces of weed and smoked every half hour for about a week. I have been off everything but cannabis for 8 years. I love weed. Weed saved my life. It can be done. Therapy will help. Find people to talk to that have been through it before. Life can be good again.

Thanks man it does help to hear, I know that's kind of my plan, I know for the longest time I didn't want to quit and now it's something I really do want so I feel like that in itself is at least a small accomplishment
Having people to talk to def. Does help too, one of my buddy's from way before we got into all of that shit is trying to quit too so I talk to him like once or twice a day and it does kind of reaffirm the idea and plan in my head.

Tomorrow is the last day of my taper and sat will be the first day I can remeber in a long time without an opiate .. I never really though kratom was an opiate and mayb it's not but it def. Feels the same and coming down off em feels the same, probably not as bad, i never went through much of a withdrawl off of any of the pills because the kratom really did take all of it away .. its mostly probably mentally

The hobbies part is huge too, I've got plenty to do to take my mind off of it, because being board is the number one thing for me .. I did try before and the feeling of being board and just wanting to flare around and break shit lolvprobably isn't normal but I know that is just the drugs

I've got a pretty sweet ceramic studio set up and alsojust started collecting coins so for the weekend I've got plenty of clay to build shit with and about 300 bucks in change to look through lol

I was on heroine and it almost cost me everything. I have been off it for 8 years 9 months and 18 days. I commend you for your fight to kick the opiates. I quit cold turkey (not an easy thing to do).

My eyes were forced to show me the truth, my sister popped over for a morning visit as she so often did. She found me face down in a puddle of vomit. I was seizing. Fortunately she had medical training, she saved me. Not realizing how bad my problem had gotten she was upset, she was upset at herself for not seeing the signs earlier and upset at me for treating my life like a joke. She handed me a notebook and a pen and told me to write a letter to my niece and nephew; tell them you love them and it wasn't them I was abandoning. My niece and nephew almost saw me in that terrifying state. I couldn't write the letter. I was so ashamed. I quit, I hit a reset button on my life from that moment.

My job became my addiction, I am a cosmetologist and my trade is my life. I went to the gym every morning and worked out until I puked (I was puking anyway because of the DTs) I found eating yogart helped, opiates do a number on your belly Activia helps put those good bacteria back.

The most important thing was to avoid my fellow using friends. As much as I love them I love my family more and I was learning to love myself.

Quitting was the best thing I ever did.

Good luck on your hard journey, my thought and prayers of strength are with you.