Opinion on botanicare nutes?

churchhaze said:

My opinion on botanicare.... They're the company that pushes the useless and overpriced cal-mag+ product, right? That's my opinion.

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Have you actually used their line?

Kronickeeper said:

Have you actually used their line?

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I used Triflex in 2004, yes. They sell salts in a bottle... but you can feed your plants carbon through the roots, because that's what they eat now. (I learned that on this thread, along with a few other gems about growing)

Just because something is the same doesn't mean it's manufactured the same for example in weight lifting whey protein is something everyone takes not all is created equal the manufacturing process effects the quality of what u get a greatly

Kronickeeper said:

Just because something is the same doesn't mean it's manufactured the same for example in weight lifting whey protein is something everyone takes not all is created equal the manufacturing process effects the quality of what u get a greatly

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That might be true, but the people giving you answers know 0 about manufacturing nutrients.

churchhaze said:

Yes, because plants absorb carbon through their roots. Brilliant.

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Wasn't saying roots absorb carbon lol. Sorry if it came off that way.

Yes Botanicare is over priced as are all pre mix minerals + they mix into some of the products derived minerals So ALL are crap in my opinion... Bio Char your soil and there will be carbon and if you have worms then BINGO your being mother Natures Booster. Earth Worm Casting have probably all the cal and mag your going to need just amend your soils right and with the right natural minerals.

SSHZ said:

All salts are not created equally. For example, many salt sources have heavy metals in them, which are terrible for your plants and your health. Fertilizers can also have other poisons in them at low doses, i.e. hazardous waste, arsenic, cadmium, chromium, nickel, dioxin, and PBT's. I didn't mean Rasta's complete comments were false, just some were "not completely true". Botanicare chelates some of their ingredients, normally the ones that tend to bind easily i.e. iron as an example. Pure Blend Pro would be considered totally organic if not for an early manufacturing process using hydrogen compound that is not allowed for organic certification.

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Pure Blend Pro Bloom Soil Formula has Pot/Cal/Mag Carbonates those are derived and sure it works BUT you can get all those for free(not derived) if you had a worm farm and you can buy all the kelp meal or fish/crab/bone/sea bird products and/or guanos for dirt cheep it won't leech out you can use the dirt for 10,000 years just amend it and your good to go and you can make basically what Pure Pro Blend is out of all those products if you need liquid fert. BTW if U R growing outside then promote worms staying on your soil and avoid salts even be careful with kelp and mushrooms READ and Educate Plants are Plants and they need certain types and amounts of certain minerals at certain time.

So Important that people that rely on pre mixed bottled minerals need to understand is the micro organisms the soil needs are only in casting and guano's and things like that, not in bottled minerals. Nematodes Man

you guys are getting off topic first you guys keep mentioning cost and price of bottled nutes that isn't my concern I have no problem with the price of the nutes. Second I'm not disputing The benefits of organics what I asked was for input from someone who had A used botanicares line and B someone who had experience with other lines and what their opinion was on how botanicare performed compared to them. if you don't like bottled nutes that's cool that's your preference but I'm not looking for that just answers to what I'm actually asking

I will try to get things back to the topic posted.

I use Botanicare Pure Blend Pro when my 3 gallon pots of Fox Farm Ocean Forest start to get depleted in flower. I have been using it between 10 and 20 ml per gallon and mix individually and hand water each plant with it every watering after week 3 on average. I transplant up through veg so I don't need nutes added then.

I have used the Pure Blend Pro Bloom but usually do not see a need for that ratio. I add nothing else.

I have gotten similar results from Botanicare Kind Trio but I like the 1 shot simplicity of the PBPG.

Oh. And I use well water here. When I used R O water I needed to add calcium and mag or I saw deficiencies.

Here is a pic of my garden for credibility.

Nice set in last post ... sorry dude yes in fact I was using some of the last of my Pure Blend Pro tonight & I have used a few other brands with great results... Sorry also to knock the product I only am "knocking" fact I make what they make not only for 1/6 th the price if that & my dirt is always better than what that can do & kudo's to all that have success in any avenue.

My opinion on Botanicare products is favorable. Very pleased with the Pure Blend Pro line, and additives... specifically Liquid Karma.

Dude if that's all your deal in all those pics Bravo I give cred to your overall "goings on" and obvious attn:

Cns17 works great, as does the PBP. Work your way up to 15ml/gallon with either of them.
I haven't tried the kind line.

Botanicare works very well, it's pricey but is a nice stable product. My current room, Kurple Fantasy on the left half of the room, and Jew's Gold, Aztec Rain, Purple Storm and Sugar Punch on the right. Exactly 3 weeks into flowering- 24 plants total under 2200 watts of H.P. light, hand fed in 4 gallon pots.

Of course i see this after starting a thread bc i couldn't find one about these nutrients. I just started growing and my boy and local grow shop swear by them. I have a question about them thou.

According to the website nute calculator and back of all the bottles I should us

PGP 16ml
Liquid karma 5ml
Cal-mag 5ml
Ryhzoblast 2ml
Silica blast 5ml
Hydro gourd 2ml

This includes me dropping nutes by 30% as stated when using multiple nutes. It would gives me a 1.9ec this seems high to me for late veg, am I wrong, I am using RO water and have been watering with .9ec water and have been struck with nutrient problems. I have a feeling that running the EC at 1.9 like said then the problem will go away but I dont want to burn them. Check my other threads for pictures. Thanks

That's a lot of silica, and will raise your ph quite a bit, I use 3ml/gal. That's also a full dose of cal mag+, only need that much on heavy calmag feeders, or if you're in coco. Could back off the LQ by 1-2ml, I use 3-4ml. And finally, that's a lot of base... start w/ ~8ml, and add until you get to your desired EC.

In the pics above, I ran the following in RO...
3ml Silica Blast
6-15ml Pure Blend Pro
3-4ml Liquid Karma
2ml Vitamino
1ml Heavy16 Roots
3ml Hygrozyme
1/2tsp Great White per 5gal

disbeverk said:

That's a lot of silica, and will raise your ph quite a bit, I use 3ml/gal. That's also a full dose of cal mag+, only need that much on heavy calmag feeders, or if you're in coco. Could back off the LQ by 1-2ml, I use 3-4ml. And finally, that's a lot of base... start w/ ~8ml, and add until you get to your desired EC.

In the pics above, I ran the following in RO...
3ml Silica Blast
6-15ml Pure Blend Pro
3-4ml Liquid Karma
2ml Vitamino
1ml Heavy16 Roots
3ml Hygrozyme
1/2tsp Great White per 5gal

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I talked to the rep for bontanicare today and he stated I could run 5-10ml per g for cal-mag. It seems most my nutrition problems are cal-mag deficiencies. I'm growing in Coco coir with Fox Farm ocean Forest at a 75-25 mix Coco coir to Fox Farm

Main problem right now after losing all older large fan leaves it now in the new growth.

Levinthelyf said:

Main problem right now after losing all older large fan leaves it now in the new growth.

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That looks like nute burn with some light bleaching causing it. The leaves just below the tops don't seem to be affected so much.