Scrog help

Hi RIU,

Im using 4*4 tent
two 5 Gal bucket DWC with two plant
one 400 MH one 600 HM 18/6

Last week I just got them into scrog net.
As in picture you can see. I think my plant is too short. Do I need to lower the screen? put light higher to let them stretch (cool hood14.5" above the screen)? I might need another month for fill the screen right? Really dont want wait another month for veg. Whats the most efficiency way to veg? BTW do I need that much watt of light in Veg?
Any feedback will help. thanks in advance

Just keep going as you are your plants will soon fill the screen, just keep an eye on your roots, once they start going bad it will cripple you (it did me) leave your net at the height it's at and don't forget when you flip them over they'll fill your net even more good luck!

I have previously used a 400watt hps to veg, it's quicker than using cfls but temps are a bugger if you don't run the hps with a cool tube/hood I'm currently vegging under a 200 watt cfl 4 individual cfls that mount to another 100 watt then a little cheap led panel next week I'll hopefully have a mars hydro in there aswell

THCBrain said:

Just keep going as you are your plants will soon fill the screen, just keep an eye on your roots, once they start going bad it will cripple you (it did me) leave your net at the height it's at and don't forget when you flip them over they'll fill your net even more good luck!

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Thanks for your feedback!
I know I fill more after flip. It stretch a lot!
What about the light distance? Do I need to put it higher? As a lot of lower branches seems need to be cut. I don't think they gonna make it over the net in a week or so. That's why I'm thinking if I should lower the net.

THCBrain said:

I have previously used a 400watt hps to veg, it's quicker than using cfls but temps are a bugger if you don't run the hps with a cool tube/hood I'm currently vegging under a 200 watt cfl 4 individual cfls that mount to another 100 watt then a little cheap led panel next week I'll hopefully have a mars hydro in there aswell

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How big is your grow space? Do u think single 400 or 600watt mh would be good enough for veg? I'm planning to flip in the end of the month. So I was hoping if they can grow faster under 400 and 600watt mh. Anyway do you think they can fill the net in the end of the month?

I can feel that CFL grow much slower than hps. Just got a 4 feet t5 set for 8 tubes in clone and early veg tent. Don't see much grow since I change it from 400mh, but it's good for clone tho. Let me know what you think about Mars hydro. I want to switch to led so bad. But not sure about the results and heard a lot of crippy shit in the market. So I choose hps and mh for safety...

Hi guys,
Im into 13days after flip. This is what they look right now. Im wondering if I am doing it right. compare with other scrog picture, I think they are kind of short.
I keep fit them to screen after flip. Am i on the right track?
any feedback and input are welcome
thanks!

ligrow said:

Hi guys,
Im into 13days after flip. This is what they look right now. Im wondering if I am doing it right. compare with other scrog picture, I think they are kind of short.
I keep fit them to screen after flip. Am i on the right track?
any feedback and input are welcome
thanks!

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g'day ligrow,

Plants are growing well but you could prune some of the thin inner branches to allow more light to get in
to the main colas.

VG

verticalgrow said:

g'day ligrow,

Plants are growing well but you could prune some of the thin inner branches to allow more light to get in
to the main colas.

VG

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Good day Verticalgrow,
Thanks for the feedback

I did cut some lower branch when I flip and last few day too. It almost two weeks 12/12 do you think I should still train them? Or I just cut the thin branches and let it grow without fit them into screen?

Wondering when is the best time to cut thin branches without shocking them?

ligrow said:

Good day Verticalgrow,
Thanks for the feedback

I did cut some lower branch when I flip and last few day too. It almost two weeks 12/12 do you think I should still train them? Or I just cut the thin branches and let it grow without fit them into screen?

Wondering when is the best time to cut thin branches without shocking them?

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keep training until theres no more gaps in the net.
Also cut the thin inner branches asap as it will let the main branches get bigger, theres no shock

verticalgrow said:

keep training until theres no more gaps in the net.
Also cut the thin inner branches asap as it will let the main branches get bigger, theres no shock

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I'm not sure how much will they grow, since it's almost two weeks after flip.
What I worried about is more branches I fit into screen more lower need to be cut off.
Do you think I should cut everything lower then net right now?

Much appreciate for your feedback

ligrow said:

I'm not sure how much will they grow, since it's almost two weeks after flip.
What I worried about is more branches I fit into screen more lower need to be cut off.
Do you think I should cut everything lower then net right now?

Much appreciate for your feedback

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Not yet cuz light penetrates thru to the bottom leaves

verticalgrow said:

Not yet cuz light penetrates thru to the bottom leaves

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Good day Verticalgrow

Thanks for your feedback again!

I will keep training them to fit the screen as much as possible.
so when do I cut the lower branches? wait for another week until they are not stretching?

This is my third time runing with scrog net setup. I think there should have something I miss.
I can not train them like what you guys do, with all the tops almost look with the same size fit into each screen.
only the first top bud getting big enough. lower buds which is also above the net can not grow big.
Sorry for lots of dummy questions if its annoyed. I wlll keep it update when in third week after flip
Much appreciated with your feedback

ligrow said:

Good day Verticalgrow

Thanks for your feedback again!

I will keep training them to fit the screen as much as possible.
so when do I cut the lower branches? wait for another week until they are not stretching?

This is my third time runing with scrog net setup. I think there should have something I miss.
I can not train them like what you guys do, with all the tops almost look with the same size fit into each screen.
only the first top bud getting big enough. lower buds which is also above the net can not grow big.
Sorry for lots of dummy questions if its annoyed. I wlll keep it update when in third week after flip
Much appreciated with your feedback

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g'day ligrow,
u can lolli-pop plants 2-3 weeks after flipping

verticalgrow said:

g'day ligrow,
u can lolli-pop plants 2-3 weeks after flipping

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Thanks for the video.
I did loli-pop them when veg and when I flip 12/12
Seems like it's not enough. I cut some this afternoon. Don't sure how much more it's gonna grow. I will cut all the branches under the net in day 21. Change to 2 600watt hps. (600watt 400watt mh right now)

Much appreciated

I'd suggest lowering the net next time if you are going for a shorter veg, it will help you begin training much sooner so you can fill the screen much quicker(hence flip to 12/12 sooner). I ran with a 4" height because I want the shortest veg possible as well, I was able to fill the net pretty quickly and now have a very nice even canopy. After the flower stretch I'm left with it being a little higher than expected over the net but really doesn't matter because my goal is to just have an even canopy with tons of bud sites, goal accomplished...

I'm 10 days into flower also on my first scrog




I plan on just filling holes now and trimming everything below net

Anon Emaus said:

I'd suggest lowering the net next time if you are going for a shorter veg, it will help you begin training much sooner so you can fill the screen much quicker(hence flip to 12/12 sooner). I ran with a 4" height because I want the shortest veg possible as well, I was able to fill the net pretty quickly and now have a very nice even canopy. After the flower stretch I'm left with it being a little higher than expected over the net but really doesn't matter because my goal is to just have an even canopy with tons of bud sites, goal accomplished...

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I wanted to set the net lower when I veg them, but the room between net and bucket was too close. I can not have enough room do the res. change. Next time I might Veg them higher or change my setup
When do you stop train them?im in 16 days, im afraid its not gonna stretch enough for the main colas, im I doing fine or if there is anything I can do to fix it?

Much appreciated with your feedback

I just read your grow journal, do you cut off all the small branches and only leave the main colas for the top?
Isn't it a little too high for scrog? can be harvest good on lower site?
No disrespect, just trying to learn this technique right. correct me if im wrong.

budolskie said:

I'm 10 days into flower also on my first scrog


I plan on just filling holes now and trimming everything below net

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Nice setup! is it a 4 by 4 setup? whats the light you use?
Good luck with your grow

3x3 my closet with a 600hps a 6in extraction

budolskie said:

3x3 my closet with a 600hps a 6in extraction

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you can update your grow, maybe we can learn something while exchange experienced

I m8 a keep u updated