questiondj42
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I'm running 5ml/gal of FP in aero. It works out to about 1.1ec. 1.2 after adding protekt, hygrozyme, hydroguard, and kln.
Dyna-Gro vs Advanced Nutrients Connoisseur (AK47 Grow)
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homebrewer
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Yep! I'll always have Dumpster in my garden. Have you tried her before?
questiondj42
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Are there pics of it somewhere? The photos in your Dumpster thread are all dead for me.
homebrewer
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I was hosting those pics at a site that revamped things. My pics were lost in the transition. I'm sure I have some somewhere.
jeeba
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Not growing it but I have smoked before.
questiondj42
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IT Savages!
homebrewer
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And Uncle Ben was the reason why I tried DG so I'm glad it's still working well for both of us!
As far as DG's schedule goes, I think it's hot and not a good mix for our plants. I run foliage pro and protekt in veg and then switch to a combo of foliage pro & bloom along with protekt during flower. DG's bloom doesn't contain enough N to keep the plants green so a little FP or Grow is needed along with bloom during flower. I only really use enough FP to keep the plants green and I don't think it takes much. For an advanced schedule, maybe run a little more FP or grow at the beginning of flower as compared to the end. Experiment and takes notes as to what works best.
questiondj42
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Are you still using Floralicious Plus during flowering?
homebrewer
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Yes, I like that product.
SamsonsRiddle
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Hey homebrewer, i've seen time and time again that you only use the bloom nutrient mixed with whatever other base (Grow or Foliage Pro) at 1:1 ratio for some time later in flowering. as we very well know the bloom is too low in nitrogen for a promix potted plant.
When do you usually do this ratio on let's say an 8 week strain? Once at 5 or 6 weeks or 3 times a week or what?
The other question I have is how do you back off the nutes for the last couple o weeks? say you run .575 ec Would you drop it to .3 during week 7 and .01 during week 8?
I would really appreciate you answering these questions if you have the time.
When do you usually do this ratio on let's say an 8 week strain? Once at 5 or 6 weeks or 3 times a week or what?
The other question I have is how do you back off the nutes for the last couple o weeks? say you run .575 ec Would you drop it to .3 during week 7 and .01 during week 8?
I would really appreciate you answering these questions if you have the time.
homebrewer
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Hey homebrewer, i've seen time and time again that you only use the bloom nutrient mixed with whatever other base (Grow or Foliage Pro) at 1:1 ratio for some time later in flowering. as we very well know the bloom is too low in nitrogen for a promix potted plant.
When do you usually do this ratio on let's say an 8 week strain? Once at 5 or 6 weeks or 3 times a week or what?
The other question I have is how do you back off the nutes for the last couple o weeks? say you run .575 ec Would you drop it to .3 during week 7 and .01 during week 8?
I would really appreciate you answering these questions if you have the time.
I don't use a 1:1 ratio, not even in hydro. That would be too much foliage pro for hydro flowering in my opinion. If you're in promix, FP from start to finish is best.
In regards to lowering nutes towards harvest, just meet the plant's nutritional needs at all times. Maybe lighten your mix up by 30-50% in the last few waterings. It's a waste of food to feed 'full strength' at the end.
SamsonsRiddle
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Hey, homebrewer, i have read you use a 4:1 ratio of Grow(Or Foliage Pro) to Protekt during flower. Say i didn't know what that meant, but understood the math of what a 4:1 ratio is. How would one figure out what a 4:1 ratio of said products would be? To clarify better, would you go by the volume of 4:1 or by the ppm/ec contribution to the water at a 4:1 ratio?
Using ppm contributions from an Incredible Results: Dyna Gro recipe thread from another website (there is no conversion listed so we will go with the numbers as if they are a universal common):
Grow and Bloom - Every 5ml adds 350 ppm to a gallon of water
Protekt - Every 5ml adds 160 ppm to a gallon of water
Would i need to do my 4:1 ratio based on ppms or on the amount of ml's?
4ml grow to 1ml protekt
which would be
280ppm grow to 32ppm protekt
or
4ml grow to approximately 2ml protekt
which would be
280ppm grow to 70ppm protekt
Using ppm contributions from an Incredible Results: Dyna Gro recipe thread from another website (there is no conversion listed so we will go with the numbers as if they are a universal common):
Grow and Bloom - Every 5ml adds 350 ppm to a gallon of water
Protekt - Every 5ml adds 160 ppm to a gallon of water
Would i need to do my 4:1 ratio based on ppms or on the amount of ml's?
4ml grow to 1ml protekt
which would be
280ppm grow to 32ppm protekt
or
4ml grow to approximately 2ml protekt
which would be
280ppm grow to 70ppm protekt
GOLDBERG71
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4ml grow to 1ml protekt
which would be
280ppm grow to 32pp
This 4 to 1. I don't check my PPM per "part" but I think 2.5 ml protekt per gallon which is what I use and close to 32PPM at least on the 500 scale.
Are you starting at ZERO PPM with RO water? Because the more I look at your PPM they both look wrong to me. I use 2.5 ml protekt and 3 ml of grow per gallon at full strength and is going to be between 280-300 PPM. I use a 32 gallon trash can and guess where 30 gallons is or Id be more specific.
which would be
280ppm grow to 32pp
This 4 to 1. I don't check my PPM per "part" but I think 2.5 ml protekt per gallon which is what I use and close to 32PPM at least on the 500 scale.
Are you starting at ZERO PPM with RO water? Because the more I look at your PPM they both look wrong to me. I use 2.5 ml protekt and 3 ml of grow per gallon at full strength and is going to be between 280-300 PPM. I use a 32 gallon trash can and guess where 30 gallons is or Id be more specific.
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homebrewer
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4:1 was for foliage pro and it was just a ratio that put the pH in the right range. These days I don't even bother with that ratio because promix seems to buffer the pH. FWIW, I use 1/2 ml of protekt as I think silica can be overused.
SamsonsRiddle
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Do you remember the plant that you helped me nurse back to health? It looked like complete shit a few pages back (first time in promix is my excuse). Well, I'm happy to say that scraggly ass little girl has completed her cycle and even left a few clones to go through the next round. She was grown with Foliage Pro, Pro Tekt, and Floralicious Plus (during flower) in RO water. Never added calmag - she didn't need any.
Thanks to everyone who has contributed to the GOOD knowledge that you have made freely available.
Here she is, Female Seeds C99 at day 51:
Thanks to everyone who has contributed to the GOOD knowledge that you have made freely available.
Here she is, Female Seeds C99 at day 51:
chuck estevez
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Hey, those look great, but I got a question because I feel the cal/mag remark was a jab at me. BUT, didn't you originally use DISTILLED water? and then switched it to R/O this time? because that would explain why you didn't need cal/mag supplements.
SamsonsRiddle
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^ According to above it shouldn't matter either way which i used. However, I switched back and forth based on what was available at the store. I would say I used their RO water about 80% of the time.
I mentioned that because it became a point of conflict during this grow, not as a jab at anyone - just information for anyone who planned on doing something similar. Trying to save people some money and narrow down their headaches.
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questiondj42
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Foliage Pro contains magnesium and calcium.
homebrewer
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Those are looking really nice. Well done!