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FauxRoux

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You do know what propaganda is, right? You do know it was used effectively by the Germans in WWII, right? They were able to convince average citizens to commit atrocities.You are telling me that you believe the same government who invades innocent countries (Iraq), tell us they have weapons of mass destruction, a government so corrupt that it waterboarded captured suspected terrorists? Yet you believe it doesn't tie into the democratic ideology? You are smarter than that.

Show me anything the department of defense has said, that in anyway says that climate change is responsible for terrorism, under a Republican president, and I will believe too. Sounds like a bunch "weapons of mass destruction" talk to me.
I Believe the point padawanbater is making...
Nobody, not even Sanders has said climate change is responsible for terrorism. What the DoD has said is that climate change contributes to the causes associated with extremism
....is that many of these countries are unstable at best. Politically, economically and other. History has shown that this has happened already (once in the bronze age and once around 476 AD when Rome fell to name a few) Climate shift was linked to famine that causes less advanced/stable peoples to migrate in mass numbers, overburdening more advanced nations and causes a strain on resources leading to economic collapse. I lived in the middle east for some time and traveled extensively before 2000 when the borders were open and it was relatively safe. The vast majority of these regions fall under these conditions. I would say most desert nations walk a tough line.

As we know, instability in an area with a weak/corrupt government lacking decent education and a decently sized segment of the population steeped in religious zeal (regardless of which one) can quickly turn ugly.

I mean....if you want to see the effects of a lack of education and too much religious influence just look at Not GOP...that guy is certainly bringing our society down. Imagine the impact that fat boy could have if he didn't have enough food and had to leave his moms basement....scary.

http://climate.nasa.gov/news/1010/
http://academic.emporia.edu/aberjame/student/fitch1/abrupt_e.html
http://environment.yale.edu/envy/stories/when-civilizations-collapse/
http://cleantechnica.com/2015/06/25/climate-change-impacts-collapse-civilization-2040-states-uk-govt-report/
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/home/science/Climate-change-caused-Indus-Valley-civilization-collapse/articleshow/31133369.cms
 
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Flaming Pie

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Well I know the economy, veterans, foreign relations and policy reform are important to me.

I was reading about how different presidents in the last have handled the economy today. JFK managed to cut taxes and increase spending in social programs and the economy boomed.

I think we need to make our social programs more efficient. My mom has to deal with all of my aunts paperwork for her benefits. My aunt has MS. It is not easy to jump through all the hoops when they make mistakes or you can't get a hold of your representative.

I have known disabled veterans that have been jerked around on their earned benefits for YEARS.

The world is also ramping up the tension in several areas and I do not think that trump is going to have that calm but assertive demeanor that we need in a president.

Black on black crime is something that needs to be addressed as well. We have to make a focused effort to improve our economy and security in the most impoverished areas. People need access to jobs and know that their children will be safe and well educated.

There is just so much I care about to be honest. Thank you for asking.
 

UncleBuck

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Black on black crime is something that needs to be addressed as well.
why not white on white crime as well? that happens at basically the same rate.

why not white on black crime? whites victimize blacks at a rate that is 50% greater than random chance would predict. should we not address that?

do you see how saying stupid shit like you just said makes me think you are a racist?
 

Flaming Pie

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why not white on white crime as well? that happens at basically the same rate.

why not white on black crime? whites victimize blacks at a rate that is 50% greater than random chance would predict. should we not address that?

do you see how saying stupid shit like you just said makes me think you are a racist?
Only you seemed to have a problem with my statements.

Why do you keep thinking my empathy for others is a racist thing?
 

Padawanbater2

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Only you seemed to have a problem with my statements.

Why do you keep thinking my empathy for others is a racist thing?
What about that point, though? I'm interested in your answer. Crime statistics tell us white people are by and large killed by other white people, black people are by and large killed by other black people because most crimes take place around areas criminals are familiar with. So if you think black on black crime needs to be addressed, doesn't the same reasoning apply to white on white crime too?
 

Flaming Pie

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What about that point, though? I'm interested in your answer. Crime statistics tell us white people are by and large killed by other white people, black people are by and large killed by other black people because most crimes take place around areas criminals are familiar with. So if you think black on black crime needs to be addressed, doesn't the same reasoning apply to white on white crime too?
I'm talking about the danger of living in a low income urban area with high crime and low education.

Unfortunately the people who often find themselves living in these areas are the minorities.

The 60s and 70s trapped a lot of black people with legal forms of segregation into bad areas.
 
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